Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>:
Bug#116932; Package links.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Gervai  Subject: Bug#116932: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals Reply-To: David Lawyer , 116932@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: David Lawyer Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Peter Gervai Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:33:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 116932 X-Debian-PR-Package: links X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by submit@bugs.debian.org id=B.100394766032604 (code B ref -1); Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:33:01 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:22:31 -0700 From: David Lawyer To: submit@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org Package: links Version: 0.95 When I try to use links at a Wyse 60 terminal, I see all the escape sequences on the screen. They must be escapes sequences for either vt100 or linux terminals. My WYSE 60 terminal works fine with lynx. Then on my other terminal (almost a vt100) lynx will work only if I set the terminal to no parity and 8-bits/char. But I have it set by default to odd-parity and 7-bits/char and this works fine with lynx, etc. Stty shows the same. Then when I start links, it changes the "stty" settings to no-parity and 8-bits/char. Since the terminal itself (done by the "set-up" key on the terminals) is still set to parity and 7-bits/char, I get mostly error characters on the screen. Links claims to use ncurses which should make it work OK on dumb terminals. But it doesn't. David Lawyer   Acknowledgement sent to David Lawyer <dave@lafn.org>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: David Lawyer Subject: Bug#116932: Acknowledgement (links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> References: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack 116932 Reply-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Peter Gervai If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 116932@bugs.debian.org (and *not* to submit@bugs.debian.org). Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 24 Oct 2001 18:21:00 +0000 From dave@lafn.org Wed Oct 24 13:21:00 2001 Return-path: Received: from zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wSeC-0008Tc-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from davespc (cs-la1-p38.lafn.org [192.168.9.38] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9OIKm972255 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:20:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@lafn.org) Received: from dave by davespc with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15wSfh-0000A4-00 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:22:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:22:31 -0700 From: David Lawyer To: submit@bugs.debian.org Subject: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals Message-ID: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org Package: links Version: 0.95 When I try to use links at a Wyse 60 terminal, I see all the escape sequences on the screen. They must be escapes sequences for either vt100 or linux terminals. My WYSE 60 terminal works fine with lynx. Then on my other terminal (almost a vt100) lynx will work only if I set the terminal to no parity and 8-bits/char. But I have it set by default to odd-parity and 7-bits/char and this works fine with lynx, etc. Stty shows the same. Then when I start links, it changes the "stty" settings to no-parity and 8-bits/char. Since the terminal itself (done by the "set-up" key on the terminals) is still set to parity and 7-bits/char, I get mostly error characters on the screen. Links claims to use ncurses which should make it work OK on dumb terminals. But it doesn't. David Lawyer   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>:
Bug#116932; Package links.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Gervai  Subject: Bug#116932: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals Reply-To: grin@tolna.net, 116932@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Peter Gervai Original-Sender: Peter Gervai Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Peter Gervai Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:48:02 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 116932 X-Debian-PR-Package: links X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by submit@bugs.debian.org id=B.100395245416150 (code B ref -1); Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:48:02 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:40:37 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> References: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org links does not work on dumb terminals. it probably never will, as its principal design based on full screen random access visuality. links is not lynx, so when lynx works on a terminal it does not mean links will do as well. if lynx does work for you, you shall use it. On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:22:31AM -0700, David Lawyer wrote: > Links claims to use ncurses which should make it work OK on dumb > terminals. But it doesn't. Please tell me where does it say that it is/uses ncurses. Every mentioning "ncurses" is a bug to be fixed. Thanks, Peter   Acknowledgement sent to grin@tolna.net:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: grin@tolna.net Subject: Bug#116932: Info received (was Bug#116932: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> References: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 116932 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Peter Gervai If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 116932@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 24 Oct 2001 19:40:54 +0000 From grin@yikes.tolna.net Wed Oct 24 14:40:54 2001 Return-path: Received: from yikes.exabit.hu (Yikes.tolna.net) [193.227.196.2] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wTtV-0004Bi-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:40:54 -0500 Received: from grin by Yikes.tolna.net with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) for (multiple recipients) id 15wTtF-0000cs-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:40:37 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:40:37 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#116932: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals Message-ID: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> Reply-To: grin@tolna.net References: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org links does not work on dumb terminals. it probably never will, as its principal design based on full screen random access visuality. links is not lynx, so when lynx works on a terminal it does not mean links will do as well. if lynx does work for you, you shall use it. On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:22:31AM -0700, David Lawyer wrote: > Links claims to use ncurses which should make it work OK on dumb > terminals. But it doesn't. Please tell me where does it say that it is/uses ncurses. Every mentioning "ncurses" is a bug to be fixed. Thanks, Peter   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>:
Bug#116932; Package links.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Gervai  Subject: Bug#116932: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals Reply-To: grin@tolna.net, 116932@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Peter Gervai Original-Sender: Peter Gervai Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Peter Gervai Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:48:03 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 116932 X-Debian-PR-Package: links X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 116932-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B116932.100395245416153 (code B ref 116932); Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:48:03 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:40:37 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> References: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org links does not work on dumb terminals. it probably never will, as its principal design based on full screen random access visuality. links is not lynx, so when lynx works on a terminal it does not mean links will do as well. if lynx does work for you, you shall use it. On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:22:31AM -0700, David Lawyer wrote: > Links claims to use ncurses which should make it work OK on dumb > terminals. But it doesn't. Please tell me where does it say that it is/uses ncurses. Every mentioning "ncurses" is a bug to be fixed. Thanks, Peter   Acknowledgement sent to grin@tolna.net:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: grin@tolna.net Subject: Bug#116932: Info received (was Bug#116932: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> References: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 116932 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Peter Gervai If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 116932@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 116932) by bugs.debian.org; 24 Oct 2001 19:40:54 +0000 From grin@yikes.tolna.net Wed Oct 24 14:40:54 2001 Return-path: Received: from yikes.exabit.hu (Yikes.tolna.net) [193.227.196.2] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wTtV-0004Bi-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:40:54 -0500 Received: from grin by Yikes.tolna.net with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) for (multiple recipients) id 15wTtF-0000cs-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:40:37 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:40:37 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#116932: links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals Message-ID: <20011024214037.A1859@Yikes.Tolna.net> Reply-To: grin@tolna.net References: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011024112230.A608@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org links does not work on dumb terminals. it probably never will, as its principal design based on full screen random access visuality. links is not lynx, so when lynx works on a terminal it does not mean links will do as well. if lynx does work for you, you shall use it. On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:22:31AM -0700, David Lawyer wrote: > Links claims to use ncurses which should make it work OK on dumb > terminals. But it doesn't. Please tell me where does it say that it is/uses ncurses. Every mentioning "ncurses" is a bug to be fixed. Thanks, Peter   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>:
Bug#116932; Package links.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Gervai  Subject: Bug#116932: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Reply-To: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey), 116932@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Peter Gervai Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:48:05 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 116932 X-Debian-PR-Package: links X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 116932-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B116932.10040566887177 (code B ref 116932); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:48:05 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:43:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.5dev.3 From: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Cc: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org links' manpage (and several webpages) claim that it uses ncurses. As a matter of fact, I pointed this out to the person who claimed to have written the manpage, over a year ago, and he didn't want to change it. It's also been noted in at least one Debian bug report w/o effect. Debian Bug report logs - #116932 > links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals > > Package: links; ;Reported by: David Lawyer ; dated Wed, > 24 Oct 2001 18:33:01 UTC; Maintainer for links is Peter Gervai > . -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net   Acknowledgement sent to dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Subject: Bug#116932: Info received (was http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> References: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 116932 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Peter Gervai If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 116932@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 116932) by bugs.debian.org; 26 Oct 2001 00:38:08 +0000 From tom@invisible-island.net Thu Oct 25 19:38:08 2001 Return-path: Received: from cj635608-a.reston1.va.home.com (invisible-island.net) [65.1.136.101] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wv0i-0001qW-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:38:08 -0500 Received: (from tom@localhost) by invisible-island.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f9Q0hjF12622; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:43:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:43:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.5dev.3 From: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Subject: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Cc: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org links' manpage (and several webpages) claim that it uses ncurses. As a matter of fact, I pointed this out to the person who claimed to have written the manpage, over a year ago, and he didn't want to change it. It's also been noted in at least one Debian bug report w/o effect. Debian Bug report logs - #116932 > links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals > > Package: links; ;Reported by: David Lawyer ; dated Wed, > 24 Oct 2001 18:33:01 UTC; Maintainer for links is Peter Gervai > . -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>:
Bug#116932; Package links.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Gervai  Subject: Bug#116932: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Reply-To: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey), 116932@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Peter Gervai Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:48:05 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 116932 X-Debian-PR-Package: links X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 116932-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B116932.10040568597603 (code B ref 116932); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:48:05 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:46:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.5dev.3 From: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Cc: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org are you aware that this comment is complete nonsense? ("dumb" terminals, for more than twenty years, have generally meant cursor-addressable video terminals - you'd have to go into the 70's to get a different meaning, i.e., hardcopy terminals) >links does not work on dumb terminals. it probably never will, as >its principal design based on full screen random access visuality. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net   Acknowledgement sent to dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Subject: Bug#116932: Info received (was http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> References: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 116932 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Peter Gervai If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 116932@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 116932) by bugs.debian.org; 26 Oct 2001 00:40:59 +0000 From tom@invisible-island.net Thu Oct 25 19:40:59 2001 Return-path: Received: from cj635608-a.reston1.va.home.com (invisible-island.net) [65.1.136.101] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wv3T-0001xr-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:40:59 -0500 Received: (from tom@localhost) by invisible-island.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f9Q0kaT12627; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:46:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:46:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.5dev.3 From: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Subject: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Cc: dickey@herndon4.his.com (Thomas Dickey) Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org are you aware that this comment is complete nonsense? ("dumb" terminals, for more than twenty years, have generally meant cursor-addressable video terminals - you'd have to go into the 70's to get a different meaning, i.e., hardcopy terminals) >links does not work on dumb terminals. it probably never will, as >its principal design based on full screen random access visuality. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>:
Bug#116932; Package links.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Gervai  Subject: Bug#116932: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Reply-To: grin@tolna.net, 116932@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Peter Gervai Original-Sender: Peter Gervai Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Peter Gervai Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 01:33:02 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 116932 X-Debian-PR-Package: links X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 116932-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B116932.100405910911811 (code B ref 116932); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 01:33:02 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:18:16 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: Thomas Dickey , 116932@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20011026031816.B13717@Yikes.Tolna.net> References: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 08:46:36PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > are you aware that this comment is complete nonsense? > > ("dumb" terminals, for more than twenty years, have generally meant > cursor-addressable video terminals - you'd have to go into the 70's > to get a different meaning, i.e., hardcopy terminals) thanks for the comment. you are welcome to send a patch to fix the problem. the upstream does not intend to, similar requests have been sent to /dev/null in the last year.   Acknowledgement sent to grin@tolna.net:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: grin@tolna.net Subject: Bug#116932: Info received (was Bug#116932: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20011026031816.B13717@Yikes.Tolna.net> References: <20011026031816.B13717@Yikes.Tolna.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 116932 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Peter Gervai If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 116932@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 116932) by bugs.debian.org; 26 Oct 2001 01:18:29 +0000 From grin@yikes.tolna.net Thu Oct 25 20:18:29 2001 Return-path: Received: from yikes.exabit.hu (Yikes.tolna.net) [193.227.196.2] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wvdl-00034B-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:18:29 -0500 Received: from grin by Yikes.tolna.net with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) for (multiple recipients) id 15wvdY-0006kn-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:18:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:18:16 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: Thomas Dickey , 116932@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#116932: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Message-ID: <20011026031816.B13717@Yikes.Tolna.net> Reply-To: grin@tolna.net References: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110260046.f9Q0kaT12627@invisible-island.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: 116932@bugs.debian.org On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 08:46:36PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > are you aware that this comment is complete nonsense? > > ("dumb" terminals, for more than twenty years, have generally meant > cursor-addressable video terminals - you'd have to go into the 70's > to get a different meaning, i.e., hardcopy terminals) thanks for the comment. you are welcome to send a patch to fix the problem. the upstream does not intend to, similar requests have been sent to /dev/null in the last year.   Severity set to `wishlist'. Request was from Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net> to control@bugs.debian.org.   Received: (at control) by bugs.debian.org; 26 Oct 2001 01:32:29 +0000 From grin@yikes.tolna.net Thu Oct 25 20:32:29 2001 Return-path: Received: from yikes.exabit.hu (Yikes.tolna.net) [193.227.196.2] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wvrJ-0003M9-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:32:29 -0500 Received: from grin by Yikes.tolna.net with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) for (multiple recipients) id 15wvrF-0006uq-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:32:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:32:25 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: Thomas Dickey , control@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#116932: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Message-ID: <20011026033224.C13717@Yikes.Tolna.net> Reply-To: grin@tolna.net References: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: control@bugs.debian.org severity #116932 wishlist tags #116932 +wontfix +upstream thanks On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 08:43:45PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: ["ncurses"] > links' manpage what version did you examine? grin@sanctuary:~$ zegrep -i curses /usr/share/man/man1/links.1.gz grin@sanctuary:~$ (links-ssl Version: 0.96-1) > (and several webpages) claim that it uses ncurses. You don't expect me to fix those, do you? Hey, I am the debian package maintaner, and not the saviour of the world! Report bugs in the package only, the bugs in the World(tm) shall be sent to god or satan or whomever responsible. Thanks. > As a matter of fact, I pointed this out to the person who claimed > to have written the manpage, as far as I know I happen to be the person who fixed, updated the manpage and committed any changes into it in the last year... > over a year ago, and he didn't want to change it. Interesting story. > It's also been noted in at least one Debian bug report > w/o effect. > > Debian Bug report logs - #116932 > > links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals > > > > Package: links; ;Reported by: David Lawyer ; dated Wed, > > 24 Oct 2001 18:33:01 UTC; Maintainer for links is Peter Gervai > > This is the same bug you are bugging me about. If you check it in 5 minutes, it'll be marked properly as well (tag +wontfix, severity wishlist). Again, you are welcome to submit a patch, and I'll happily test and include it. (But I doubt dumb terminal users are the main target of the browser anyway.) regards.   Tags added: Request was from Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net> to control@bugs.debian.org.   Received: (at control) by bugs.debian.org; 26 Oct 2001 01:32:29 +0000 From grin@yikes.tolna.net Thu Oct 25 20:32:29 2001 Return-path: Received: from yikes.exabit.hu (Yikes.tolna.net) [193.227.196.2] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15wvrJ-0003M9-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:32:29 -0500 Received: from grin by Yikes.tolna.net with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) for (multiple recipients) id 15wvrF-0006uq-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:32:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:32:25 +0200 From: Peter Gervai To: Thomas Dickey , control@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#116932: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116932 Message-ID: <20011026033224.C13717@Yikes.Tolna.net> Reply-To: grin@tolna.net References: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110260043.f9Q0hjF12622@invisible-island.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: control@bugs.debian.org severity #116932 wishlist tags #116932 +wontfix +upstream thanks On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 08:43:45PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: ["ncurses"] > links' manpage what version did you examine? grin@sanctuary:~$ zegrep -i curses /usr/share/man/man1/links.1.gz grin@sanctuary:~$ (links-ssl Version: 0.96-1) > (and several webpages) claim that it uses ncurses. You don't expect me to fix those, do you? Hey, I am the debian package maintaner, and not the saviour of the world! Report bugs in the package only, the bugs in the World(tm) shall be sent to god or satan or whomever responsible. Thanks. > As a matter of fact, I pointed this out to the person who claimed > to have written the manpage, as far as I know I happen to be the person who fixed, updated the manpage and committed any changes into it in the last year... > over a year ago, and he didn't want to change it. Interesting story. > It's also been noted in at least one Debian bug report > w/o effect. > > Debian Bug report logs - #116932 > > links browser doesn't work with dumb terminals > > > > Package: links; ;Reported by: David Lawyer ; dated Wed, > > 24 Oct 2001 18:33:01 UTC; Maintainer for links is Peter Gervai > > This is the same bug you are bugging me about. If you check it in 5 minutes, it'll be marked properly as well (tag +wontfix, severity wishlist). Again, you are welcome to submit a patch, and I'll happily test and include it. (But I doubt dumb terminal users are the main target of the browser anyway.) regards.   Noted your statement that Bug has been forwarded to links-list@linuxfromscratch.org. Request was from Peter Gervai <grin@tolna.net> to control@bugs.debian.org.   Received: (at control) by bugs.debian.org; 30 Jan 2002 11:24:36 +0000 From grin@yikes.tolna.net Wed Jan 30 05:24:36 2002 Return-path: Received: from narya.grin.hu (Yikes.tolna.net) [62.80.74.2] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 16Vsqw-0008Gl-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:24:35 -0600 Received: from grin by Yikes.tolna.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) for id 16Vsqu-0001k4-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:24:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:24:32 +0100 From: Peter Gervai To: control@bugs.debian.org Subject: big list of bugs (re)submitted upstream Message-ID: <20020130112432.GG1169@Yikes.Tolna.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: Peter Gervai Delivered-To: control@bugs.debian.org forwarded #127316 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #127753 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #127874 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #127319 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #120018 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #116932 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #113592 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #115360 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #101650 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org forwarded #81077 links-list@linuxfromscratch.org thanks For a long time the author seem to be alive again, I'm submitting (again) the buglist to the list, and hope the best. :-(