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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org>

Subject: Bug#90031: ifconfig doesn't report PROMISCuous status of network interface
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Package: net-tools
Version: 1.58-2

Distribution: Sid
@viper:[/home/ssahmed/News/Pan] cat /etc/debian_version
testing/unstable

Running a sniffer like tcpdump and/or snort, ifconfig doesn't report my
ethernet interfaces as being in PROMISCuous mode. However, the dmesg
buffer and /var/log/kern.log both report the ethernet interfaces as
being switched to promiscuous mode (and when I stop the sniffer(s),
dmesg and /var/log/kern.log report that the network interface has indeed
left promiscuous mode).

Tested with kernel 2.4.2, 2.4.1, and 2.2.18 on two updated sid systems.
On one system, the NIC is a D-LINK 530TX+ using the 8139too.c ethernet
driver compiled into the kernel.

On the other system (my firewall), the two NICS are:

 eth0: Sohoware NDC 10/100 using the tulip.c driver
 eth1: D-Link 530TX+ using the 8139too.c driver

Same behaviour of ifconfig (fails to report the promiscuous status of
the network interfaces) on the firewall system even with the Sohoware
NIC that uses the tulip driver.

However, using the tools from the iproute package I can see the
promiscuous state of an interface:

ip link show eth0

this correctly reports the network interface as being in promisuous mode
when either tcpdump or snort is running while ifconfig reports that the
network interface isn't.

Also, changing the promiscuous state of the interface using ifconfig
reports the status correctly:

ie ifconfig eth0 promisc (or ifconfig eth0 -promisc)

I have already verified that my systems haven't been compromised
(debsums all check out). Recompiled the 2.4.2 kernel without loadable
module support to rule out the possibility of the Knark rootkit, the
behaviour of ifconfig still persists.

Please also see related discussion thread on debian-security:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-0103/msg00207.html

Here is a report from another user experiencing the same behaviour of
ifconfig that I have described:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-0103/msg00224.html

Thanks.

-- 
Salman Ahmed
ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com





<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>ssahmed@pathcom.com</code>:<br>
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-t

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Package: net-tools
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@viper:[/home/ssahmed/News/Pan] cat /etc/debian_version
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Running a sniffer like tcpdump and/or snort, ifconfig doesn't report my
ethernet interfaces as being in PROMISCuous mode. However, the dmesg
buffer and /var/log/kern.log both report the ethernet interfaces as
being switched to promiscuous mode (and when I stop the sniffer(s),
dmesg and /var/log/kern.log report that the network interface has indeed
left promiscuous mode).

Tested with kernel 2.4.2, 2.4.1, and 2.2.18 on two updated sid systems.
On one system, the NIC is a D-LINK 530TX+ using the 8139too.c ethernet
driver compiled into the kernel.

On the other system (my firewall), the two NICS are:

 eth0: Sohoware NDC 10/100 using the tulip.c driver
 eth1: D-Link 530TX+ using the 8139too.c driver

Same behaviour of ifconfig (fails to report the promiscuous status of
the network interfaces) on the firewall system even with the Sohoware
NIC that uses the tulip driver.

However, using the tools from the iproute package I can see the
promiscuous state of an interface:

ip link show eth0

this correctly reports the network interface as being in promisuous mode
when either tcpdump or snort is running while ifconfig reports that the
network interface isn't.

Also, changing the promiscuous state of the interface using ifconfig
reports the status correctly:

ie ifconfig eth0 promisc (or ifconfig eth0 -promisc)

I have already verified that my systems haven't been compromised
(debsums all check out). Recompiled the 2.4.2 kernel without loadable
module support to rule out the possibility of the Knark rootkit, the
behaviour of ifconfig still persists.

Please also see related discussion thread on debian-security:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-0103/msg00207.html

Here is a report from another user experiencing the same behaviour of
ifconfig that I have described:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-0103/msg00224.html

Thanks.

-- 
Salman Ahmed
ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com





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<code>Bug#90031</code>; Package <code>net-tools</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org>

Subject: Bug#90031: ifconfig doesn't report PROMISCuous status of network interface
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I'm pretty sure this is a kernel issue, not a net-tools problem.  It seems 
that af_packet.c calls dev_set_promiscuity() directly without updating 
dev->gflags.  I suggest you ask linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org what's going 
on.

p.






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I'm pretty sure this is a kernel issue, not a net-tools problem.  It seems 
that af_packet.c calls dev_set_promiscuity() directly without updating 
dev->gflags.  I suggest you ask linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org what's going 
on.

p.






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I'm pretty sure this is a kernel issue, not a net-tools problem.  It seems 
that af_packet.c calls dev_set_promiscuity() directly without updating 
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dev->gflags.  I suggest you ask linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org what's going 
on.

p.






<strong>Merged 90031 102474.</strong>
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merge 90031 102474
thanks








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On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 06:36:21PM +0200, Cesare Tensi wrote:
> The bug #222676 is fixed (worked on my system), so you can close it.
> (PROMISC mode)
> The bug #90031 (and #102474 merged with it) is quite older (revision
> 1-58...), so you can close it.

No this is pretty complicated, there are cases where the ioctl cannot read
nor set the correct promisc state. For example some drivers must enable
promisc mode if the want to do multicasting. Fiing this is best done by
using the netdevice code. I had a longish discussion on net-dev, thats why i
have written the comments in the bugs, that kernel wont fix it. You could
try to locate some code which is reliable detecting promisc flag (however i
wanted to keep netdev code out of the current releases of net-tools and
reserve that to 2.x)

So  I am not sure what to do with those bugs until then.

> The bug #64458 is very quite older...

This is  also a kernel "problem" because it has the notion of a primary
alias. However we could close that with some detailed documentation. Unlike
ip ifconfig does not show which the primary address is - thats most likely
required before it can be closed.

> Some of them is "fixed" but I believe that better is to close them

i did that some time ago, it did not work, i jsut did it again.

Greetings
Bernd




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From: Bernd Eckenfels <be-mail2005@lina.inka.de>
To: Cesare Tensi <cesare.tensi@gmail.com>, philb@gnu.org
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On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 06:36:21PM +0200, Cesare Tensi wrote:
> The bug #222676 is fixed (worked on my system), so you can close it.
> (PROMISC mode)
> The bug #90031 (and #102474 merged with it) is quite older (revision
> 1-58...), so you can close it.

No this is pretty complicated, there are cases where the ioctl cannot read
nor set the correct promisc state. For example some drivers must enable
promisc mode if the want to do multicasting. Fiing this is best done by
using the netdevice code. I had a longish discussion on net-dev, thats why i
have written the comments in the bugs, that kernel wont fix it. You could
try to locate some code which is reliable detecting promisc flag (however i
wanted to keep netdev code out of the current releases of net-tools and
reserve that to 2.x)

So  I am not sure what to do with those bugs until then.

> The bug #64458 is very quite older...

This is  also a kernel "problem" because it has the notion of a primary
alias. However we could close that with some detailed documentation. Unlike
ip ifconfig does not show which the primary address is - thats most likely
required before it can be closed.

> Some of them is "fixed" but I believe that better is to close them

i did that some time ago, it did not work, i jsut did it again.

Greetings
Bernd




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<code>Bug#90031</code>; Package <code>net-tools</code>.


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