<strong>Report forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Wichert Akkerman &lt;wakkerma@debian.org&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#77828</code>; Package <code>dpkg</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgWichert Akkerman <wakkerma@debian.org>

Subject: Bug#77828: dpkg: [PATCH]: users should be able to use update-alternatives (not only root)
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From: Martin Quinson <mquinson@pixies.ens-lyon.fr>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
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Message-Id: <E13zgnH-0008MG-00@pixies>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:59:11 +0100
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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.7.1
Severity: wishlist

Hello,

Here is an (unified) patch against update-alternatives.pl as found today in
the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" system
on their account.

But, don't dream, anything is not possible for users. They can just call
update-alternatives for actions "--display", "--config" or "--install".
So, they can't add new alternative neither remove old ones. (Doing so, I
don't have to manage a DB for users)

Second problem, users who want to use it will have to add to their .bashrc
something like:
PATH=$HOME/etc/alternatives:$PATH
MANPATH=$HOME/etc/alternatives:$PATH
The problem is that anything (binaries and man pages) will be mixed up in
this directory (good news in the bad new: you can change the dir used).

Third problem: so far, the programm is located in /usr/sbin
So, you'll have to change that to give the users the ability to use it.

Enough with problems. How does it work ?
When you run the programm as user (uid != 0), /etc/alternatives is not
changed (sure, I do not have the right to do so). It's the ~/etc/altenatives
which changes.

When I (as user) put an alternative to "auto", it removes the corresponding
link from my subdir, putting the setting to the system-wide one by the same
occasion.

When I (as user) run display, I got information about my own personal
setting, and about the system-wide one.

When I (as user) run config, and if I got a personnal setting for this
alternative, this is the default one, and it is marked by a '@'. (so, we
have three column:
 '@' on first one for the user settings (not visible when root)
 '*' on second one for system-wide one
 '+' on third one for 'best' one

Ok, I've just read that I can't make attachements to bug repports because
the system dislikes MIME, so I dumbly copy/paste my patch here...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEGIN OF PATCH
--- DEBIAN/dpkg/scripts/update-alternatives.pl	Sat Nov 25 09:58:52 2000
+++ update-alternatives.pl	Sat Nov 25 15:49:00 2000
@@ -45,6 +45,7 @@
 
 Options:  --verbose|--quiet  --test  --help  --version
           --altdir <directory>  --admindir <directory>
+          --localaltdir <directory>
 END
         || &quit("failed to write usage: $!");
 }
@@ -103,6 +104,9 @@
     } elsif (m/^--altdir$/) {
         @ARGV || &badusage("--altdir needs a <directory> argument");
         $altdir= shift(@ARGV);
+    } elsif (m/^--localaltdir$/) {
+        @ARGV || &badusage("--localaltdir needs a <directory> argument");
+        $localaltdir= shift(@ARGV);
     } elsif (m/^--admindir$/) {
         @ARGV || &badusage("--admindir needs a <directory> argument");
         $admindir= shift(@ARGV);
@@ -115,6 +119,19 @@
 $aslavelinkcount{$alink} && &badusage("link $link is both primary and slave");
 
 $mode || &badusage("need --display, --config, --install, --remove or --auto");
+if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<))) { # check if user is root
+    $mode eq "auto" || $mode eq "config" || $mode eq "display"
+	|| &badusage("If you're not root, you're only allowed to run --config, --auto or --display"); 
+    $localaltdir=$ENV{"HOME"}.$altdir unless $localaltdir;
+    $localaltdir || &quit("Unable to determine localaltdir. Giving up");
+    &pr("Any changes will apply to $localaltdir.") 
+	if $verbosemode > 0;
+    -e $localaltdir || &quit("$localaltdir does not exist. Please create it.");
+    $rootaltdir=$altdir;$altdir=$localaltdir;
+} else {
+    $rootaltdir='';
+    $localaltdir && &badusage("You can't specify a localaltdir option when running as root");
+}
 $mode eq 'install' || !%slavelink || &badusage("--slave only allowed with --install");
 
 if (open(AF,"$admindir/$name")) {
@@ -159,10 +176,20 @@
 
 if ($mode eq 'display') {
     if (!$dataread) {
-        &pr("No alternatives for $name.");
+	 &pr("No alternatives for $name.");
     } else {
-        &pr("$name - status is $manual.");
-        if (defined($linkname= readlink("$altdir/$name"))) {
+	if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<))) {
+	    if (defined($linkname= readlink("$altdir/$name"))) {
+		&pr("$name - user alternative link currently points to $linkname");
+	    } elsif ($! == &ENOENT) {
+		&pr("$name - using system-wide settings");
+	    }
+	}
+	$tmp=getpwnam(getpwuid($<))? "\nSystem wide":"$name - ";
+	$tmp2=getpwnam(getpwuid($<))? " BUT DISCARDED in flavor of user settings":"";
+        &pr("$tmp status is $manual$tmp2.");
+        if ((getpwnam(getpwuid($<))&& defined($linkname = readlink("$rootaltdir/$name"))) 
+	    || defined($linkname= readlink("$altdir/$name"))) {
             &pr(" link currently points to $linkname");
         } elsif ($! == &ENOENT) {
             &pr(" link currently absent");
@@ -225,6 +252,22 @@
 # all independent
 
 if ($mode eq 'auto') {
+    if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) != 0) { # check if user is root
+	&pr("Setting up selection of $name to site setting.") 
+	    if $verbosemode > 0;
+	&quit("$name already set to site setting. Nothing done") 
+	    unless -e "$altdir/$name";
+	&pr("You are not root: I won't change the system wide settings, but only yours.\n");
+	unlink("$altdir/$name") || $! == &ENOENT ||
+	    &quit("unable to remove $altdir/$name");
+	for ($j=0; $j<=$#slavenames; $j++) {
+	    &pr("Discarding obsolete slave link $slavenames[$j] ($slavelinks[$j]).")
+		if $verbosemode > 0;
+	    unlink("$altdir/$slavenames[$j]") || $! == &ENOENT ||
+		&quit("unable to remove $slavenames[$j]: $!");
+	}
+	exit 0;
+    }
     &pr("Setting up automatic selection of $name.")
       if $verbosemode > 0;
     unlink("$altdir/$name.dpkg-tmp") || $! == &ENOENT ||
@@ -366,6 +409,7 @@
 # state=unexpected => manual=manual
 # manual=auto => state!=expected-inprogress && state!=unexpected
 
+exit 0 if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<))); # non-root don't save the DB
 open(AF,">$admindir/$name.dpkg-new") ||
     &quit("unable to open $admindir/$name.dpkg-new for write: $!");
 &paf($manual);
@@ -482,15 +526,32 @@
 	return;
     }
     printf(STDOUT "\nThere are %s programs which provide \`$name'.\n\n", $#versions+1);
-    printf(STDOUT "  Selection    Command\n");
+    printf(STDOUT "   Selection    Command\n");
     printf(STDOUT "-----------------------------------------------\n");
+    $userfixed=0;
     for ($i=0; $i<=$#versions; $i++) {
-	printf(STDOUT "%s%s    %s        %s\n", 
-	    (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '*' : ' ',
+	$userfixed = $userfixed || 
+	    (-e "$altdir/$name" && (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]));
+	printf(STDOUT "%s%s%s    %s        %s\n", 
+	    (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? #non root
+	     (-e "$altdir/$name" && (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '@' : ' ')
+	     : # root => no user specified
+	     ' '),
+	    (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? #non root
+	     ((readlink("$rootaltdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '*' : ' ')
+	     : # root
+	    (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '*' : ' '),
 	    ($best eq $versions[$i]) ? '+' : ' ',
 	    $i+1, $versions[$i]);
     }
-    printf(STDOUT "\nEnter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: ");
+    &pr("\n");
+
+    &pr("(You are not root: I won't change the system wide settings, but only yours)\n")
+	if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)));
+
+    printf(STDOUT "Enter to keep the %sdefault[%s], or type selection number: ",
+	   (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? ($userfixed ? "user-specified " : "system-wide ") : ""),
+	   (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? ($userfixed ? "@" : "*") : "*"));
 }
 
 sub config_alternatives {
@@ -559,3 +620,8 @@
 exit(0);
 
 # vim: nowrap ts=8 sw=4
+
+
+
+
+
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END OF PATCH

When this is the wrong way to give a patch, please say it, and I'll resend it.

Bye, Mt.

-- System Information
Debian Release: woody
Kernel Version: Linux pixies 2.2.17 #1 Thu Sep 21 17:08:01 CEST 2000 i686 unknown

Versions of the packages dpkg depends on:
ii  libc6          2.2-1          GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
ii  libncurses5    5.0-7          Shared libraries for terminal handling
ii  libstdc++2.10- 2.95.2-17      The GNU stdc++ library




<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Martin Quinson &lt;mquinson@pixies.ens-lyon.fr&gt;</code>:<br>
New Bug report received and forwarded.  Copy sent to <code>Wichert Akkerman &lt;wakkerma@debian.org&gt;</code>.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System)
To: Martin Quinson <mquinson@pixies.ens-lyon.fr>
Subject: Bug#77828: Acknowledgement (dpkg: [PATCH]: users should be able to use update-alternatives (not only root))
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From: Martin Quinson <mquinson@pixies.ens-lyon.fr>
Subject: dpkg: [PATCH]: users should be able to use update-alternatives (not only root)
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
X-Mailer: bug 3.3.7
Message-Id: <E13zgnH-0008MG-00@pixies>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:59:11 +0100
Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Package: dpkg
Version: 1.7.1
Severity: wishlist

Hello,

Here is an (unified) patch against update-alternatives.pl as found today in
the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" system
on their account.

But, don't dream, anything is not possible for users. They can just call
update-alternatives for actions "--display", "--config" or "--install".
So, they can't add new alternative neither remove old ones. (Doing so, I
don't have to manage a DB for users)

Second problem, users who want to use it will have to add to their .bashrc
something like:
PATH=$HOME/etc/alternatives:$PATH
MANPATH=$HOME/etc/alternatives:$PATH
The problem is that anything (binaries and man pages) will be mixed up in
this directory (good news in the bad new: you can change the dir used).

Third problem: so far, the programm is located in /usr/sbin
So, you'll have to change that to give the users the ability to use it.

Enough with problems. How does it work ?
When you run the programm as user (uid != 0), /etc/alternatives is not
changed (sure, I do not have the right to do so). It's the ~/etc/altenatives
which changes.

When I (as user) put an alternative to "auto", it removes the corresponding
link from my subdir, putting the setting to the system-wide one by the same
occasion.

When I (as user) run display, I got information about my own personal
setting, and about the system-wide one.

When I (as user) run config, and if I got a personnal setting for this
alternative, this is the default one, and it is marked by a '@'. (so, we
have three column:
 '@' on first one for the user settings (not visible when root)
 '*' on second one for system-wide one
 '+' on third one for 'best' one

Ok, I've just read that I can't make attachements to bug repports because
the system dislikes MIME, so I dumbly copy/paste my patch here...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEGIN OF PATCH
--- DEBIAN/dpkg/scripts/update-alternatives.pl	Sat Nov 25 09:58:52 2000
+++ update-alternatives.pl	Sat Nov 25 15:49:00 2000
@@ -45,6 +45,7 @@
 
 Options:  --verbose|--quiet  --test  --help  --version
           --altdir <directory>  --admindir <directory>
+          --localaltdir <directory>
 END
         || &quit("failed to write usage: $!");
 }
@@ -103,6 +104,9 @@
     } elsif (m/^--altdir$/) {
         @ARGV || &badusage("--altdir needs a <directory> argument");
         $altdir= shift(@ARGV);
+    } elsif (m/^--localaltdir$/) {
+        @ARGV || &badusage("--localaltdir needs a <directory> argument");
+        $localaltdir= shift(@ARGV);
     } elsif (m/^--admindir$/) {
         @ARGV || &badusage("--admindir needs a <directory> argument");
         $admindir= shift(@ARGV);
@@ -115,6 +119,19 @@
 $aslavelinkcount{$alink} && &badusage("link $link is both primary and slave");
 
 $mode || &badusage("need --display, --config, --install, --remove or --auto");
+if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<))) { # check if user is root
+    $mode eq "auto" || $mode eq "config" || $mode eq "display"
+	|| &badusage("If you're not root, you're only allowed to run --config, --auto or --display"); 
+    $localaltdir=$ENV{"HOME"}.$altdir unless $localaltdir;
+    $localaltdir || &quit("Unable to determine localaltdir. Giving up");
+    &pr("Any changes will apply to $localaltdir.") 
+	if $verbosemode > 0;
+    -e $localaltdir || &quit("$localaltdir does not exist. Please create it.");
+    $rootaltdir=$altdir;$altdir=$localaltdir;
+} else {
+    $rootaltdir='';
+    $localaltdir && &badusage("You can't specify a localaltdir option when running as root");
+}
 $mode eq 'install' || !%slavelink || &badusage("--slave only allowed with --install");
 
 if (open(AF,"$admindir/$name")) {
@@ -159,10 +176,20 @@
 
 if ($mode eq 'display') {
     if (!$dataread) {
-        &pr("No alternatives for $name.");
+	 &pr("No alternatives for $name.");
     } else {
-        &pr("$name - status is $manual.");
-        if (defined($linkname= readlink("$altdir/$name"))) {
+	if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<))) {
+	    if (defined($linkname= readlink("$altdir/$name"))) {
+		&pr("$name - user alternative link currently points to $linkname");
+	    } elsif ($! == &ENOENT) {
+		&pr("$name - using system-wide settings");
+	    }
+	}
+	$tmp=getpwnam(getpwuid($<))? "\nSystem wide":"$name - ";
+	$tmp2=getpwnam(getpwuid($<))? " BUT DISCARDED in flavor of user settings":"";
+        &pr("$tmp status is $manual$tmp2.");
+        if ((getpwnam(getpwuid($<))&& defined($linkname = readlink("$rootaltdir/$name"))) 
+	    || defined($linkname= readlink("$altdir/$name"))) {
             &pr(" link currently points to $linkname");
         } elsif ($! == &ENOENT) {
             &pr(" link currently absent");
@@ -225,6 +252,22 @@
 # all independent
 
 if ($mode eq 'auto') {
+    if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) != 0) { # check if user is root
+	&pr("Setting up selection of $name to site setting.") 
+	    if $verbosemode > 0;
+	&quit("$name already set to site setting. Nothing done") 
+	    unless -e "$altdir/$name";
+	&pr("You are not root: I won't change the system wide settings, but only yours.\n");
+	unlink("$altdir/$name") || $! == &ENOENT ||
+	    &quit("unable to remove $altdir/$name");
+	for ($j=0; $j<=$#slavenames; $j++) {
+	    &pr("Discarding obsolete slave link $slavenames[$j] ($slavelinks[$j]).")
+		if $verbosemode > 0;
+	    unlink("$altdir/$slavenames[$j]") || $! == &ENOENT ||
+		&quit("unable to remove $slavenames[$j]: $!");
+	}
+	exit 0;
+    }
     &pr("Setting up automatic selection of $name.")
       if $verbosemode > 0;
     unlink("$altdir/$name.dpkg-tmp") || $! == &ENOENT ||
@@ -366,6 +409,7 @@
 # state=unexpected => manual=manual
 # manual=auto => state!=expected-inprogress && state!=unexpected
 
+exit 0 if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<))); # non-root don't save the DB
 open(AF,">$admindir/$name.dpkg-new") ||
     &quit("unable to open $admindir/$name.dpkg-new for write: $!");
 &paf($manual);
@@ -482,15 +526,32 @@
 	return;
     }
     printf(STDOUT "\nThere are %s programs which provide \`$name'.\n\n", $#versions+1);
-    printf(STDOUT "  Selection    Command\n");
+    printf(STDOUT "   Selection    Command\n");
     printf(STDOUT "-----------------------------------------------\n");
+    $userfixed=0;
     for ($i=0; $i<=$#versions; $i++) {
-	printf(STDOUT "%s%s    %s        %s\n", 
-	    (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '*' : ' ',
+	$userfixed = $userfixed || 
+	    (-e "$altdir/$name" && (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]));
+	printf(STDOUT "%s%s%s    %s        %s\n", 
+	    (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? #non root
+	     (-e "$altdir/$name" && (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '@' : ' ')
+	     : # root => no user specified
+	     ' '),
+	    (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? #non root
+	     ((readlink("$rootaltdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '*' : ' ')
+	     : # root
+	    (readlink("$altdir/$name") eq $versions[$i]) ? '*' : ' '),
 	    ($best eq $versions[$i]) ? '+' : ' ',
 	    $i+1, $versions[$i]);
     }
-    printf(STDOUT "\nEnter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: ");
+    &pr("\n");
+
+    &pr("(You are not root: I won't change the system wide settings, but only yours)\n")
+	if (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)));
+
+    printf(STDOUT "Enter to keep the %sdefault[%s], or type selection number: ",
+	   (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? ($userfixed ? "user-specified " : "system-wide ") : ""),
+	   (getpwnam(getpwuid($<)) ? ($userfixed ? "@" : "*") : "*"));
 }
 
 sub config_alternatives {
@@ -559,3 +620,8 @@
 exit(0);
 
 # vim: nowrap ts=8 sw=4
+
+
+
+
+
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END OF PATCH

When this is the wrong way to give a patch, please say it, and I'll resend it.

Bye, Mt.

-- System Information
Debian Release: woody
Kernel Version: Linux pixies 2.2.17 #1 Thu Sep 21 17:08:01 CEST 2000 i686 unknown

Versions of the packages dpkg depends on:
ii  libc6          2.2-1          GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
ii  libncurses5    5.0-7          Shared libraries for terminal handling
ii  libstdc++2.10- 2.95.2-17      The GNU stdc++ library




<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Wichert Akkerman &lt;wakkerma@debian.org&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#77828</code>; Package <code>dpkg</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgWichert Akkerman <wakkerma@debian.org>

Subject: Bug#77828: Correction of email adress
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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:54:35 +0100 (MET)
From: Martin Quinson <mquinson@ens-lyon.fr>
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Well, sorry, I sent the report from a misconfigured machine.
My (valid) email is the one used in this mail.

Thanks, Mt.





<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Martin Quinson &lt;mquinson@ens-lyon.fr&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Wichert Akkerman &lt;wakkerma@debian.org&gt;</code>.


-t

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Well, sorry, I sent the report from a misconfigured machine.
My (valid) email is the one used in this mail.

Thanks, Mt.





<strong>Merged 77828 79292.</strong>
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<strong>Merged 77828 79292.</strong>
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<strong>Merged 77828 79292 79941.</strong>
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<strong>Changed Bug title.</strong>
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retitle 206163 [DOC] /usr/share/man/man8/dselect.8.gz: mention dselect update as the prefered way to keep the available fresh
retitle 207758 [INTL] completed dutch po file
retitle 208014 [DOC] dpkg: Improvements to the update-alternatives manpage
retitle 197177 [ARCH] dpkg support for /lib64 and /usr/lib64 locations on 64 bit platforms
retitle 196158 [ARCH] dpkg: support for GNU/FreeBSD in
retitle 166052 [INTL] Updated spanish translation
retitle 165843 [INTL] Please localize perl programs as well.
retitle 164906 [INTL] dpkg: add deb.5 french translation
retitle 154633 [DOC] install-info: --help should use stdout
retitle 154277 [ARCH] OpenBSD patch
retitle 153096 [DOC] dpkg: -S on man page should further metion what it wont find
retitle 134358 [INTL] dpkg: german translation: bad grammar
retitle 133745 [U-A] dpkg: [patch] update-alternatives is not scriptable
retitle 126621 [U-A] [patch] update-alternatives --all (configure all)
retitle 115759 [DOC] man-page update-alternatives(8) SuX0r
retitle 110520 [DOC] dpkg manpage over 3 years old
retitle 100135 [U-A] dpkg: update-alternatives should create the <link> -> /etc/alternatives/<name> link anyway
retitle 87677 [U-A] problems with update-alternatives when link no longer exists
retitle 77828 [U-A] dpkg: [PATCH]: users should be able to use update-alternatives (not only root)
retitle 76295 [U-A] update-alternative doesn't check consistency if only one alternative
retitle 61156 [DOC] document the fact that dpkg downgrades without checking dependencies
retitle 48895 [U-A] problems with update-alternatives
retitle 24514 [ARCH] 3 diff's to compile dpkg-1.4.0.24 on HP-UX
retitle 208894 [DOC] dpkg: start-stop-daemon printing (null) as process-name
retitle 207259 [DOC] dpkg-dev: typo in dpkg-source(1)
retitle 206164 [DOC] /usr/share/man/man8/dselect.8.gz: "dselect is the primary user interface for managing packages on a Debian system."
retitle 204123 [DOC] typo in manpage for dpkg-buildpackage -nc
retitle 203582 [U-A] dpkg: links to /etc/alternatives not generated if alternatives exit already
retitle 203560 [U-A] /etc/alternatives/README: some alternatives are a big mystery
retitle 203557 [U-A] /usr/sbin/update-alternatives: prompt unclear
retitle 199204 [INTL] install-info: gives a hint only when using english
retitle 192972 [INTL] dselect: Danish translation of dselect
retitle 192102 [INTL] dselect: cosmetic problem, item 3 on pt_BR
retitle 189492 [DOC] start-stop-daemon: manpage incorrect for --nicelevel
retitle 187952 [INTL] dpkg: German translation for a warning isn't right
retitle 183840 [DOC] dpkg-dev: word repeated in deb-control(5)
retitle 183164 [DOC] dpkg: start-stop-daemon man page -- doesn't show shortened --exec syntax
retitle 179648 [DOC] dpkg: Error in update-alternatives(8) man page re: --install args
retitle 175770 [DOC] dpkg-dev: dpkg-scansources man page "prog"
retitle 174971 [DOC] dpkg(8) should point the user towards
retitle 173463 [DOC] dpkg-dev: deb-control(5) does not document Bugs: and Origin:
retitle 171489 [INTL] dpkg: Spanish manpages available
retitle 168500 [DOC] dpkg: --help show unpaired pairs
retitle 167426 [DOC] dpkg-dev: typo in man page for dpkg-buildpackage: "imlies"
retitle 165099 [DOC] dpkg man page: --no-act non-optimal
retitle 163621 [DOC] dpkg-architecture documentation wrong
retitle 162897 [INTL] dpkg: [l10n:fr] missing space in downgrading message
retitle 162154 [INTL] dpkg: translation in french for diverted package is unclear
retitle 161819 [DOC] dpkg-dev: Small typo in deb-control(5)
retitle 157973 [DOC] dselect: man page out of date
retitle 157819 [INTL] typo in dpkg --force-help (LANG=ja_JP.EUC-JP)
retitle 155822 [DOC] dpkg-parsechangelog: s/dpkg-source/dpkg-parsechangelog/ in help
retitle 151845 [DOC] dpkg: typo in dpkg-source(1)
retitle 151799 [INTL] small mistake in Dutch translation
retitle 151578 [DOC] dselect: help screen isn't updated
retitel 150642 [DOC] Small typo in dpkg-deb
retitle 149142 [INTL] dpkg: missing space in french l10n message
retitle 142370 [INTL] dpkg: update for Polish translation
retitle 140695 [DOC] Incorrect info in dpkg-divert man page
retitle 138244 [INTL] dpkg: Typo in italina po file
retitle 137315 [U-A] dpkg: update-alternatives: creation of `link' doesn't respect `Replaces:'.
retitle 137313 [U-A] dpkg: update-alternatives: various minor reporting bugs
retitle 127342 [DOC] start-stop-daemon: Reference in man page to nonexistent '--group' option.
retitle 126068 [DOC] minor typo in dpkg-divert(8)
retitle 122910 [DOC] Debian Packaging Manual is obsolete
retitle 120970 [DOC] dpkg-doc description refers to MIA packaging-manual
retitle 117518 [INTL] incorrect warnings in Czech translation
retitle 115352 [INTL] German translation for "suggests" seems crude
retitle 112057 [INTL] dpkg: Polish translation correction
retitle 111711 [INTL] dpkg: Wording error in description for -O in dpkg(8)
retitle 109669 [INTL] German translation for "suggests" is far from perfect
retitle 102094 [INTL] Dutch translation has issues
retitle 98822 [U-A] dpkg: update-alternatives is noisy when fixing old slave symlinks that were broken due to past update-alternatives brain-damage
retitle 91348 [DOC] dpkg: desinformation regarding /usr/share/doc/dpkg/THANKS
retitle 64471 [DOC] dpkg(1) refers to nonexistent info pages
retitle 208992 [INTL] dselect: German localization broken
retitle 199360 [ARCH] Please add alphaev68-linux-gnu to the archtable
retitle 192954 [U-A] dpkg: update-alternatives doesn't work when cd'd to a directory root can't write to
retitle 175236 [DOC] dpkg: man page should suggest how to install selected packages
retitle 173205 [ARCH] dpkg-dev: dpkg-architecture revert to i386
retitle 169619 [DOC] dpkg: documents unavailable --command-fd option
retitle 166812 [DOC] pt_BR manpage installs at wrong place
retitle 158973 [U-A] update-alternatives: resets state to "auto" after preventive removing of non-existent binary
retitle 144515 [ARCH] dpkg --print-architecture on i386 sometimes prints i386-none
retitle 141325 [U-A] lam-runtime: the link /etc/alternatives/mpirun ends up pointing to /usr/bin/mpirun_lam
retitle 115655 [ARCH] dpkg-architecture outputs non-canonical GNU system type
retitle 114946 [DOC] dpkg-scan* man pages: section8 -> section1?
retitle 99870 [U-A] "Invalid cross-device link" error from update-alternatives
retitle 85502 [U-A] update-alternatives: old broken link shouldn't force manual mode
retitle 80144 [U-A] dpkg: bad times when replacing an alternative with a single file
retitle 37254 [U-A] update-alternatives: don't go to manual mode when targets missing
retitle 164214 [U-A] dpkg: update-alternatives still wrong, methinks
retitle 143302 [U-A] /usr/man/man1 missing, update-alternatives dies
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retitle 62529 Support binary only recompilations
retitle 53393 dpkg now uses itself to build
tag 53393 patch
retitle 74259 [PERF] dpkg: a couple of memory leaks
retitle 48208 dpkg-shlibdeps can't cope with bins linked against libfoo.so
retitle 77828 [U-A] users should be able to use u-a (not only root)
retitle 112824 dpkg-signpackage




<strong>Blocking bugs added: 216606</strong>
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severity 367251 minor
merge 367251 367254 367255
merge 372812 367052
block 77828 by 216606
reopen 336669
close 336669 1.13.19
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tags 77828 - patch
tags 77828 + wontfix
thanks

On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Martin Quinson wrote:
> Here is an (unified) patch against update-alternatives.pl as found toda=
y in
> the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" s=
ystem
> on their account.

I'm not really inclined to support such a feature. I have yet to see a
valid use case.

When the user wants to override a system-wide setting, there are already
dozens of solutions going from using some environment variable to
changing the PATH so that ~/bin/ is looked first. And ~/bin/ can contain
symlinks corresponding to the various name of alternatives and have them
point to their program of choice.

Cheers,
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y in
> the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" s=
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> on their account.

I'm not really inclined to support such a feature. I have yet to see a
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point to their program of choice.

Cheers,
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tags 77828 - patch
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Martin Quinson wrote:
> Here is an (unified) patch against update-alternatives.pl as found toda=
y in
> the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" s=
ystem
> on their account.

I'm not really inclined to support such a feature. I have yet to see a
valid use case.

When the user wants to override a system-wide setting, there are already
dozens of solutions going from using some environment variable to
changing the PATH so that ~/bin/ is looked first. And ~/bin/ can contain
symlinks corresponding to the various name of alternatives and have them
point to their program of choice.

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--=20
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tags 77828 - patch
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Martin Quinson wrote:
> Here is an (unified) patch against update-alternatives.pl as found toda=
y in
> the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" s=
ystem
> on their account.

I'm not really inclined to support such a feature. I have yet to see a
valid use case.

When the user wants to override a system-wide setting, there are already
dozens of solutions going from using some environment variable to
changing the PATH so that ~/bin/ is looked first. And ~/bin/ can contain
symlinks corresponding to the various name of alternatives and have them
point to their program of choice.

Cheers,
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Hallo Raphael and *,

Am 2008-07-06 17:49:25, schrieb Raphael Hertzog:
> tags 77828 - patch
> tags 77828 + wontfix
> thanks
>=20
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Martin Quinson wrote:
> > Here is an (unified) patch against update-alternatives.pl as found toda=
y in
> > the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" s=
ystem
> > on their account.
>=20
> I'm not really inclined to support such a feature. I have yet to see a
> valid use case.
>=20
> When the user wants to override a system-wide setting, there are already
> dozens of solutions going from using some environment variable to
> changing the PATH so that ~/bin/ is looked first. And ~/bin/ can contain
> symlinks corresponding to the various name of alternatives and have them
> point to their program of choice.

I would support this whishlist bug since update-alternatives.pl  support
already an infrastructure and yes, ~/bin should be used.  I have written
for some time an tool which is based on "update-alternatives"

Not sure for now (no fsck Web-Access currently), but AFAIK I have it  as
Debian Package on my website and use (X)dialog  which  can  easyly  used
under the X-Window-System.

I have writen it, because there are "noobs" which are USER-ONLY and have
no clue about system configuration.  So my Xdialog Tool has helped  many
peoples already, even it is very simple coded.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    24V Electronic Engineer
    Tamay Dogan Network
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Hallo Raphael and *,

Am 2008-07-06 17:49:25, schrieb Raphael Hertzog:
> tags 77828 - patch
> tags 77828 + wontfix
> thanks
>=20
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Martin Quinson wrote:
> > Here is an (unified) patch against update-alternatives.pl as found toda=
y in
> > the CVS. Its purpose is to allow the users to manage an "alternative" s=
ystem
> > on their account.
>=20
> I'm not really inclined to support such a feature. I have yet to see a
> valid use case.
>=20
> When the user wants to override a system-wide setting, there are already
> dozens of solutions going from using some environment variable to
> changing the PATH so that ~/bin/ is looked first. And ~/bin/ can contain
> symlinks corresponding to the various name of alternatives and have them
> point to their program of choice.

I would support this whishlist bug since update-alternatives.pl  support
already an infrastructure and yes, ~/bin should be used.  I have written
for some time an tool which is based on "update-alternatives"

Not sure for now (no fsck Web-Access currently), but AFAIK I have it  as
Debian Package on my website and use (X)dialog  which  can  easyly  used
under the X-Window-System.

I have writen it, because there are "noobs" which are USER-ONLY and have
no clue about system configuration.  So my Xdialog Tool has helped  many
peoples already, even it is very simple coded.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    24V Electronic Engineer
    Tamay Dogan Network
    Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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