Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns  Subject: Bug#101728: Automatic detection of hardware interface Reply-To: Anthony Towns , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Anthony Towns Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:03:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by submit@bugs.debian.org id=B.99309933124443 (code B ref -1); Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:03:01 GMT Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:55:15 +1000 To: submit@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini Message-ID: <20010621145515.B5055@azure.humbug.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: Lacking X-PGP: http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/aj_key.asc From: Anthony Towns Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org Package: ifupdown Severity: wishlist (Tom, FYI only) ifupdown should support automatically determining the physical interface given the logical interface (or some hint anyway), as well as vice-versa. Using the message below as an example, you should be able to say something like: ifup =airport and have a script detect that the "airport" card is actually "eth1"; and then continue normal processing, so you eventually end up bring "eth1" up in the "home" configuration (eg). That generalises to servers where eth0/eth1 could get mixed up (eg), and might make things easier for proper ppp support later. Maybe. ----- Forwarded message from Tom Rini ----- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:02:48 -0700 From: Tom Rini To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Subject: Slightly newer airport sleep bits for pmud Message-ID: <20010620130248.A26006@opus.bloom.county> Hey all, after talking to someone else, I found out not everyone has their airport modules loaded with autoclean, So I've appended my current version of the script I use which should work around this. And I moved it into /etc/power/pwrctl-local since no official kernels support sleep yet on these machines. Here it is: logger=/usr/bin/logger case "$1" in sleep) # Currently the airport driver isn't happy with sleep, so we # must remove it if [ "`lsmod | grep airport 2>/dev/null`" ]; then AIRPORT=`cat /proc/net/wireless | grep eth | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d : -f 1` ifdown $AIRPORT tempfile -n /var/run/airport || { $logger -p daemon.error -t pwrctl "$0: cannot create tempfile" exit 1 } echo $AIRPORT > /var/run/airport # Make sure we get airport, even if it's not autoprobed. rmmod airport && rmmod orinoco && rmmod hermes fi ;; wakeup) [ -f /var/run/airport ] && { modprobe -k airport ifup `cat /var/run/airport` rm /var/run/airport } ;; *) ;; esac ----- End forwarded message -----   Acknowledgement sent to Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Anthony Towns Subject: Bug#101728: Acknowledgement (Automatic detection of hardware interface) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010621145515.B5055@azure.humbug.org.au> References: <20010621145515.B5055@azure.humbug.org.au> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack 101728 Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org (and *not* to submit@bugs.debian.org). Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 21 Jun 2001 04:55:31 +0000 From aj@azure.humbug.org.au Wed Jun 20 23:55:31 2001 Return-path: Received: from cpe-61-9-140-237.vic.bigpond.net.au (azure.humbug.org.au) [::ffff:61.9.140.237] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15CwV8-0006MC-00; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:55:30 -0500 Received: from aj by azure.humbug.org.au with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15CwUt-0001N9-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:55:15 +1000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:55:15 +1000 To: submit@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini Subject: Automatic detection of hardware interface Message-ID: <20010621145515.B5055@azure.humbug.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: Lacking X-PGP: http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/aj_key.asc From: Anthony Towns Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org Package: ifupdown Severity: wishlist (Tom, FYI only) ifupdown should support automatically determining the physical interface given the logical interface (or some hint anyway), as well as vice-versa. Using the message below as an example, you should be able to say something like: ifup =airport and have a script detect that the "airport" card is actually "eth1"; and then continue normal processing, so you eventually end up bring "eth1" up in the "home" configuration (eg). That generalises to servers where eth0/eth1 could get mixed up (eg), and might make things easier for proper ppp support later. Maybe. ----- Forwarded message from Tom Rini ----- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:02:48 -0700 From: Tom Rini To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Subject: Slightly newer airport sleep bits for pmud Message-ID: <20010620130248.A26006@opus.bloom.county> Hey all, after talking to someone else, I found out not everyone has their airport modules loaded with autoclean, So I've appended my current version of the script I use which should work around this. And I moved it into /etc/power/pwrctl-local since no official kernels support sleep yet on these machines. Here it is: logger=/usr/bin/logger case "$1" in sleep) # Currently the airport driver isn't happy with sleep, so we # must remove it if [ "`lsmod | grep airport 2>/dev/null`" ]; then AIRPORT=`cat /proc/net/wireless | grep eth | sed 's/^ //' | cut -d : -f 1` ifdown $AIRPORT tempfile -n /var/run/airport || { $logger -p daemon.error -t pwrctl "$0: cannot create tempfile" exit 1 } echo $AIRPORT > /var/run/airport # Make sure we get airport, even if it's not autoprobed. rmmod airport && rmmod orinoco && rmmod hermes fi ;; wakeup) [ -f /var/run/airport ] && { modprobe -k airport ifup `cat /var/run/airport` rm /var/run/airport } ;; *) ;; esac ----- End forwarded message -----   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: Flawed idea? Reply-To: Thomas Hood , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Thomas Hood Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns , ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 09:03:02 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.104408956412599 (code B ref 101728); Sat, 01 Feb 2003 09:03:02 GMT From: Thomas Hood To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 01 Feb 2003 09:54:08 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct then this (#101728) idea is flawed. The proposal is that ifup|down be enhanced so that logical interfaces can be named on the command line instead of physical interfaces. However, if it is the case that more than one physical interface can be mapped to a single logical interface then such a command can be ambiguous. Unless of course we want to introduce "reverse-mapping" declarations. What is the motivation for this proposal? Cheers -- Thomas Hood   Acknowledgement sent to Thomas Hood <jdthood@yahoo.co.uk>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Thomas Hood Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was Flawed idea?) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> References: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 1 Feb 2003 08:52:44 +0000 From jdthood@yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 01 02:52:43 2003 Return-path: Received: from mars.mj.nl [81.91.1.49] by master.debian.org with smtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 18etOD-0003H0-00; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:52:42 -0600 Received: (qmail 10607 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 08:52:40 -0000 Received: from 81-91-5-31-customer.mjdsl.nl (HELO ?192.168.0.1?) (81.91.5.31) by www.mj.nl with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 08:52:40 -0000 Subject: Flawed idea? From: Thomas Hood To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 01 Feb 2003 09:54:08 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct then this (#101728) idea is flawed. The proposal is that ifup|down be enhanced so that logical interfaces can be named on the command line instead of physical interfaces. However, if it is the case that more than one physical interface can be mapped to a single logical interface then such a command can be ambiguous. Unless of course we want to introduce "reverse-mapping" declarations. What is the motivation for this proposal? Cheers -- Thomas Hood   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: Flawed idea? Reply-To: Tom Rini , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Tom Rini Original-Sender: Tom Rini Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns , ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:03:12 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.10441218527382 (code B ref 101728); Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:03:12 GMT Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:50:46 -0700 From: Tom Rini To: Thomas Hood , Anthony Towns Cc: 101728@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20030201175046.GC5596@ip68-0-152-218.tc.ph.cox.net> References: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: Tom Rini Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:54:08AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct > then this (#101728) idea is flawed. The proposal is > that ifup|down be enhanced so that logical interfaces > can be named on the command line instead of physical > interfaces. However, if it is the case that more than > one physical interface can be mapped to a single logical > interface then such a command can be ambiguous. Unless > of course we want to introduce "reverse-mapping" > declarations. What is the motivation for this proposal? To be honest, it's been a long time since I've had to think about this. But, the problem was that at one point if you put an Apple TiBook to sleep, with the 'airport' card active, upon wakeup the driver would be horribly unhappy (requiring a reboot). I don't _think_ this is a problem anymore. Anthony, do you have any desire still to see the feature in the bug exist? I wouldn't object to this bug being closed. -- Tom Rini (TR1265) http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/   Acknowledgement sent to Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Tom Rini Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was Flawed idea?) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20030201175046.GC5596@ip68-0-152-218.tc.ph.cox.net> References: <20030201175046.GC5596@ip68-0-152-218.tc.ph.cox.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 1 Feb 2003 17:50:52 +0000 From trini@kernel.crashing.org Sat Feb 01 11:50:51 2003 Return-path: Received: from ip68-0-182-170.tc.ph.cox.net (opus.bloom.county) [68.0.182.170] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 18f1n1-0001um-00; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:50:51 -0600 Received: from tmrini by opus.bloom.county with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18f1mw-0003GF-00; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:50:46 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:50:46 -0700 From: Tom Rini To: Thomas Hood , Anthony Towns Cc: 101728@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Flawed idea? Message-ID: <20030201175046.GC5596@ip68-0-152-218.tc.ph.cox.net> References: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: Tom Rini Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:54:08AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct > then this (#101728) idea is flawed. The proposal is > that ifup|down be enhanced so that logical interfaces > can be named on the command line instead of physical > interfaces. However, if it is the case that more than > one physical interface can be mapped to a single logical > interface then such a command can be ambiguous. Unless > of course we want to introduce "reverse-mapping" > declarations. What is the motivation for this proposal? To be honest, it's been a long time since I've had to think about this. But, the problem was that at one point if you put an Apple TiBook to sleep, with the 'airport' card active, upon wakeup the driver would be horribly unhappy (requiring a reboot). I don't _think_ this is a problem anymore. Anthony, do you have any desire still to see the feature in the bug exist? I wouldn't object to this bug being closed. -- Tom Rini (TR1265) http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: Flawed idea? Reply-To: Anthony Towns , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Anthony Towns Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns , ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 07:18:09 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.104417013532355 (code B ref 101728); Sun, 02 Feb 2003 07:18:09 GMT Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:15:31 +1000 To: Thomas Hood , 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini Message-ID: <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> References: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organisation: Lacking X-PGP: http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/aj_key.asc X-No-CC: Don't Cc me to mailing list posts unless you really have to Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Anthony Towns Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:54:08AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct > then this (#101728) idea is flawed. I'm not sure why you think you've got a better understanding of how ifupdown works than I do, Thomas. Your assistance is appreciated, but please try to realise you ought to just be offering what assistance you can, not making decisions you don't have the experience to make. The original report is still entirely correct. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Australian Linux Lovefest Heads West'' -- linux.conf.au, Perth W.A., 22nd-25th January 2003   Acknowledgement sent to Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Anthony Towns Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was Bug#101728: Flawed idea?) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> References: <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 2 Feb 2003 07:15:35 +0000 From aj@azure.humbug.org.au Sun Feb 02 01:15:35 2003 Return-path: Received: from azure.humbug.org.au [203.143.238.84] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 18fELm-0008Pd-00; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 01:15:35 -0600 Received: from aj by azure.humbug.org.au with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18fELj-00011t-00; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 17:15:31 +1000 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:15:31 +1000 To: Thomas Hood , 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini Subject: Re: Bug#101728: Flawed idea? Message-ID: <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> References: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organisation: Lacking X-PGP: http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/aj_key.asc X-No-CC: Don't Cc me to mailing list posts unless you really have to Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Anthony Towns Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:54:08AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct > then this (#101728) idea is flawed. I'm not sure why you think you've got a better understanding of how ifupdown works than I do, Thomas. Your assistance is appreciated, but please try to realise you ought to just be offering what assistance you can, not making decisions you don't have the experience to make. The original report is still entirely correct. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Australian Linux Lovefest Heads West'' -- linux.conf.au, Perth W.A., 22nd-25th January 2003   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: Flawed idea? Reply-To: Thomas Hood , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Thomas Hood Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns , ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 11:03:03 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.104418346322443 (code B ref 101728); Sun, 02 Feb 2003 11:03:03 GMT From: Thomas Hood To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini In-Reply-To: <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> References: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1044183548.1589.711.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 02 Feb 2003 11:59:09 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03 version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:15, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:54:08AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > > If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct > > then this (#101728) idea is flawed. > > I'm not sure why you think you've got a better understanding of how > ifupdown works than I do, Thomas. Your assistance is appreciated, but > please try to realise you ought to just be offering what assistance you > can, not making decisions you don't have the experience to make. > > The original report is still entirely correct. I never said that I thought I had a better understanding than you have. I just said, roughly, "IIUC this is a flawed idea" and explained my reasoning. I took no decision; I did not change the status of the report in any way, apart from appending my comment. Your reaction appears to be to take offence, to criticize me unfairly, and to insist that you were right without offering any explanation of where my reasoning went wrong. I don't think that that is conducive to a constructive conversation. But I'll drop the matter. -- Thomas Hood   Acknowledgement sent to Thomas Hood <jdthood@yahoo.co.uk>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>, ifupdown@packages.qa.debian.org.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Thomas Hood Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was Bug#101728: Flawed idea?) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1044183548.1589.711.camel@thanatos> References: <1044183548.1589.711.camel@thanatos> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 Disabled-Doogie-Reply-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 2 Feb 2003 10:57:43 +0000 From jdthood@yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 02 04:57:42 2003 Return-path: Received: from mars.mj.nl [81.91.1.49] by master.debian.org with smtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 18fHoj-0005pj-00; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 04:57:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 18739 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 10:57:40 -0000 Received: from 81-91-5-31-customer.mjdsl.nl (HELO ?192.168.0.1?) (81.91.5.31) by www.mj.nl with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 10:57:40 -0000 Subject: Re: Bug#101728: Flawed idea? From: Thomas Hood To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: Tom Rini In-Reply-To: <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> References: <1044089648.1594.214.camel@thanatos> <20030202071531.GA3838@azure.humbug.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1044183548.1589.711.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Date: 02 Feb 2003 11:59:09 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03 version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:15, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 09:54:08AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > > If my understanding of how ifupdown works is correct > > then this (#101728) idea is flawed. > > I'm not sure why you think you've got a better understanding of how > ifupdown works than I do, Thomas. Your assistance is appreciated, but > please try to realise you ought to just be offering what assistance you > can, not making decisions you don't have the experience to make. > > The original report is still entirely correct. I never said that I thought I had a better understanding than you have. I just said, roughly, "IIUC this is a flawed idea" and explained my reasoning. I took no decision; I did not change the status of the report in any way, apart from appending my comment. Your reaction appears to be to take offence, to criticize me unfairly, and to insist that you were right without offering any explanation of where my reasoning went wrong. I don't think that that is conducive to a constructive conversation. But I'll drop the matter. -- Thomas Hood   Merged 101728 182012. Request was from Thomas Hood <jdthood@yahoo.co.uk> to control@bugs.debian.org.   Received: (at control) by bugs.debian.org; 24 Apr 2004 11:16:57 +0000 From jdthood@yahoo.co.uk Sat Apr 24 04:16:57 2004 Return-path: Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BHL9U-00080m-00; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 04:16:57 -0700 Received: from [82.161.38.140] (helo=thanatos) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1BHL9T-000Ghk-00 for control@bugs.debian.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:16:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thanatos (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8A510D66E for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:16:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: housekeeping From: Thomas Hood To: control@bugs.debian.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1082805406.4775.547.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:16:46 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: control@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: X-CrossAssassin-Score: 1 unmerge 182012 clone 182012 -1 retitle 182012 ifupdown 0.7: Implement detection of physical iface merge 182012 101728 retitle -1 ifupdown 0.7: Implement callback mechanism for ppp, dhcp, etc merge -1 83922 thanks   Merged 101728 182012 227283. Request was from Thomas Hood <jdthood@yahoo.co.uk> to control@bugs.debian.org.   Received: (at control) by bugs.debian.org; 25 Apr 2004 19:51:28 +0000 From jdthood@yahoo.co.uk Sun Apr 25 12:51:28 2004 Return-path: Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BHpey-0006m6-00; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:51:28 -0700 Received: from [82.161.38.140] (helo=thanatos) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1BHpex-000Bx3-00 for control@bugs.debian.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:51:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thanatos (Postfix) with ESMTP id C366210D5D5 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:51:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: housekeeping From: Thomas Hood To: control@bugs.debian.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1082922686.8777.28.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:51:26 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: control@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: X-CrossAssassin-Score: 1 severity 196865 normal tags 245028 wontfix retitle 154816 Please warn about unrecognized options tags 154816 wontfix retitle 227283 Please implement a nameif(8)-like feature merge 227283 101728 close 242607 reopen 242607 "Thomas Hood" close 245067 reopen 245067 "Thomas Hood" retitle 178885 Second dhclient3 for same interface should not start severity 178885 normal reassign 178885 dhcp3-client thanks   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, craig@microtron.org.uk, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgcraig@microtron.org.ukAnthony Towns  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only Reply-To: Craig Shelley , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Craig Shelley Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: craig@microtron.org.uk, Anthony Towns Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:03:05 UTC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.109437821617200 (code B ref 101728); Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:03:05 UTC Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Sep 2004 09:56:56 +0000 Received: from master.debian.org [146.82.138.7] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3tlY-0004TE-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 02:56:56 -0700 Received: from i-195-137-47-43.freedom2surf.net ([127.0.0.1]) [195.137.47.43] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3tlX-0004Dr-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:56:56 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Craig Shelley To: Debian Bug Tracking System <101728@bugs.debian.org> X-Mailer: reportbug 2.64 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:57:24 +0100 Message-Id: Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_PACKAGE, OUR_MTA_MSGID,X_DEBBUGS_CC autolearn=ham version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: Package: ifupdown Version: 0.6.4-4.10 Followup-For: Bug #101728 I think a better way would be to allow complete abstraction from the ethx names without requiring an external mapping script. This would involve a section within the interfaces file directly mapping the interface names to mac addresses. These can then be assigned to the physical devices for example: ip link set eth1 name broadband so ifconfig would then report: broadband Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:49:88:E6 inet addr:192.168.0.65 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 .... The overall effect is that the end user never gets to see the ethx names. Instead they are presented with the names they assigned in the config file. It would also remove the need for real names and logical names. By using a command such as: ifdown broadband Since the physical interface name is given on the command line (as they are currently), I would guess that it shouldn't be too hard to implement. There may be a flaw in this idea, please let me know what you think. Craig Shelley -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.8.1 Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 Versions of packages ifupdown depends on: ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.4.32 Debian configuration management sy ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-16 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii net-tools 1.60-10 The NET-3 networking toolkit -- debconf information: ifupdown/convert-interfaces: true   Acknowledgement sent to Craig Shelley <craig@microtron.org.uk>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to craig@microtron.org.uk, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Craig Shelley Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was ifupdown: Using logical mappings only) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the package maintainer(s) and to other interested parties to accompany the original report. As you requested using X-Debbugs-CC, your message was also forwarded to craig@microtron.org.uk (after having been given a Bug report number, if it did not have one). Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Sep 2004 09:56:56 +0000 From craig@microtron.org.uk Sun Sep 05 02:56:56 2004 Return-path: Received: from master.debian.org [146.82.138.7] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3tlY-0004TE-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 02:56:56 -0700 Received: from i-195-137-47-43.freedom2surf.net ([127.0.0.1]) [195.137.47.43] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3tlX-0004Dr-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:56:56 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Craig Shelley To: Debian Bug Tracking System <101728@bugs.debian.org> Subject: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only X-Mailer: reportbug 2.64 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:57:24 +0100 X-Debbugs-Cc: craig@microtron.org.uk Message-Id: Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_PACKAGE, OUR_MTA_MSGID,X_DEBBUGS_CC autolearn=ham version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: Package: ifupdown Version: 0.6.4-4.10 Followup-For: Bug #101728 I think a better way would be to allow complete abstraction from the ethx names without requiring an external mapping script. This would involve a section within the interfaces file directly mapping the interface names to mac addresses. These can then be assigned to the physical devices for example: ip link set eth1 name broadband so ifconfig would then report: broadband Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:49:88:E6 inet addr:192.168.0.65 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 .... The overall effect is that the end user never gets to see the ethx names. Instead they are presented with the names they assigned in the config file. It would also remove the need for real names and logical names. By using a command such as: ifdown broadband Since the physical interface name is given on the command line (as they are currently), I would guess that it shouldn't be too hard to implement. There may be a flaw in this idea, please let me know what you think. Craig Shelley -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.8.1 Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 Versions of packages ifupdown depends on: ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.4.32 Debian configuration management sy ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-16 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii net-tools 1.60-10 The NET-3 networking toolkit -- debconf information: ifupdown/convert-interfaces: true   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only Reply-To: Marc Haber , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Marc Haber Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:48:04 UTC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.109438031620411 (code B ref 101728); Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:48:04 UTC Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Sep 2004 10:31:56 +0000 Received: from de46d.ipsec0.torres.ka0.zugschlus.de (torres.ka0.zugschlus.de) [212.126.222.70] (Debian-exim) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3uJQ-0005J2-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:31:56 -0700 Received: from mh by torres.ka0.zugschlus.de with local (Exim 4.41) id 1C3uJr-0002oy-G0; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:32:23 +0200 Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:32:23 +0200 From: Marc Haber To: Craig Shelley , 101728@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20040905103223.GB10770@torres.ka0.zugschlus.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 10:57:24AM +0100, Craig Shelley wrote: > I think a better way would be to allow complete abstraction from the > ethx names without requiring an external mapping script. > This would involve a section within the interfaces file directly mapping the interface names to mac addresses. > > These can then be assigned to the physical devices for example: > ip link set eth1 name broadband > > so ifconfig would then report: > broadband Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:49:88:E6 > inet addr:192.168.0.65 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.192 > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > .... Something like this? 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo 2: unt0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:00:e8:df:07:78 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 212.126.222.70/29 brd 212.126.222.71 scope global unt0:de46d inet 192.168.131.1/29 brd 192.168.131.7 scope global unt0:83018 3: int0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:00:e8:6c:d0:9b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.130.1/24 brd 192.168.130.255 scope global int0:82018 4: per0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:00:e8:6b:3d:9c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 212.126.222.73/29 brd 212.126.222.79 scope global per0:de49d Unt0 is the untrusted interface, int0 the internal one, and per0 a perimeter network. If that's what you seek, take a look at the ifupdown-scripts-zg2 package in unstable which uses ifupdown's manual method to implement this. It is, however, quite far from ifupdown's original design goals. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29   Acknowledgement sent to Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Marc Haber Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was Bug#101728: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040905103223.GB10770@torres.ka0.zugschlus.de> References: <20040905103223.GB10770@torres.ka0.zugschlus.de> Precedence: bulk X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the package maintainer(s) and to other interested parties to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Sep 2004 10:31:56 +0000 From mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de Sun Sep 05 03:31:56 2004 Return-path: Received: from de46d.ipsec0.torres.ka0.zugschlus.de (torres.ka0.zugschlus.de) [212.126.222.70] (Debian-exim) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3uJQ-0005J2-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:31:56 -0700 Received: from mh by torres.ka0.zugschlus.de with local (Exim 4.41) id 1C3uJr-0002oy-G0; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:32:23 +0200 Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:32:23 +0200 From: Marc Haber To: Craig Shelley , 101728@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#101728: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only Message-ID: <20040905103223.GB10770@torres.ka0.zugschlus.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 10:57:24AM +0100, Craig Shelley wrote: > I think a better way would be to allow complete abstraction from the > ethx names without requiring an external mapping script. > This would involve a section within the interfaces file directly mapping the interface names to mac addresses. > > These can then be assigned to the physical devices for example: > ip link set eth1 name broadband > > so ifconfig would then report: > broadband Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:49:88:E6 > inet addr:192.168.0.65 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.192 > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > .... Something like this? 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo 2: unt0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:00:e8:df:07:78 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 212.126.222.70/29 brd 212.126.222.71 scope global unt0:de46d inet 192.168.131.1/29 brd 192.168.131.7 scope global unt0:83018 3: int0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:00:e8:6c:d0:9b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.130.1/24 brd 192.168.130.255 scope global int0:82018 4: per0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:00:e8:6b:3d:9c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 212.126.222.73/29 brd 212.126.222.79 scope global per0:de49d Unt0 is the untrusted interface, int0 the internal one, and per0 a perimeter network. If that's what you seek, take a look at the ifupdown-scripts-zg2 package in unstable which uses ifupdown's manual method to implement this. It is, however, quite far from ifupdown's original design goals. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only Reply-To: Thomas Hood , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Thomas Hood Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:18:02 UTC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.109438572016793 (code B ref 101728); Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:18:02 UTC Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Sep 2004 12:02:00 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3via-0004Mg-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 05:02:00 -0700 Received: from aglu.demon.nl ([82.161.38.140]:65365 helo=localhost) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C3viY-000LcJ-Os; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:01:58 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D0D10D5F3; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:02:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Hood To: Craig Shelley , 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1094385775.11462.558.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:02:55 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: First some terminology. There are real network adapters and there are, assigned to the latter: * MAC addresses * "physical" interface names (assigned by the kernel) * "logical" interface names (i.e., names of ifupdown profiles) AIUI you want to be able to define logical interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces as this is currently done but you want a simpler way of getting these assigned to real interfaces on the basis of their MAC addresses and you want the "physical" interface names to be changed so that they are the same as the logical interface names. The behavior you want is already obtainable by installing the ifrename package. The ifrename command changes the physical interface name to another name on the basis of the real interface's MAC address. Once interfaces have been ifrenamed, all you have to do is define logical interfaces in /e/n/i using the same names. E.g. Suppose you have an interface adapter card with MAC address 11:22:33:44:55:66. You set up /etc/iftab with this line: george mac 11:22:33:44:55:66 and /etc/network/interfaces with: iface george inet static address 11.22.33.44 netmask ... Suppose the interface has been named 'eth0' by the kernel. Then you do: ifrename -i eth0 to rename the interface and then do: ifup george to bring it up. If the interface is hot plugged and you have the hotplug package installed then the ifrename command gets executed automatically. An ifup command also gets executed automatically, but in this form: ifup george=hotplug In order to allow this to to have the effect of bring up interface "george" as logical interface "george" you need to add the following stanza to /etc/network/interfaces: mapping hotplug script echo -- Thomas Hood   Acknowledgement sent to Thomas Hood <jdthood@yahoo.co.uk>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Thomas Hood Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was Bug#101728: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1094385775.11462.558.camel@thanatos> References: <1094385775.11462.558.camel@thanatos> Precedence: bulk X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the package maintainer(s) and to other interested parties to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Sep 2004 12:02:00 +0000 From jdthood@yahoo.co.uk Sun Sep 05 05:02:00 2004 Return-path: Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1C3via-0004Mg-00; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 05:02:00 -0700 Received: from aglu.demon.nl ([82.161.38.140]:65365 helo=localhost) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C3viY-000LcJ-Os; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:01:58 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D0D10D5F3; Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:02:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Bug#101728: ifupdown: Using logical mappings only From: Thomas Hood To: Craig Shelley , 101728@bugs.debian.org Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1094385775.11462.558.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:02:55 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: First some terminology. There are real network adapters and there are, assigned to the latter: * MAC addresses * "physical" interface names (assigned by the kernel) * "logical" interface names (i.e., names of ifupdown profiles) AIUI you want to be able to define logical interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces as this is currently done but you want a simpler way of getting these assigned to real interfaces on the basis of their MAC addresses and you want the "physical" interface names to be changed so that they are the same as the logical interface names. The behavior you want is already obtainable by installing the ifrename package. The ifrename command changes the physical interface name to another name on the basis of the real interface's MAC address. Once interfaces have been ifrenamed, all you have to do is define logical interfaces in /e/n/i using the same names. E.g. Suppose you have an interface adapter card with MAC address 11:22:33:44:55:66. You set up /etc/iftab with this line: george mac 11:22:33:44:55:66 and /etc/network/interfaces with: iface george inet static address 11.22.33.44 netmask ... Suppose the interface has been named 'eth0' by the kernel. Then you do: ifrename -i eth0 to rename the interface and then do: ifup george to bring it up. If the interface is hot plugged and you have the hotplug package installed then the ifrename command gets executed automatically. An ifup command also gets executed automatically, but in this form: ifup george=hotplug In order to allow this to to have the effect of bring up interface "george" as logical interface "george" you need to add the following stanza to /etc/network/interfaces: mapping hotplug script echo -- Thomas Hood   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: wontfix in nettools Reply-To: Bernd Eckenfels , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Bernd Eckenfels Original-Sender: Bernd Eckenfels Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:19:18 UTC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.113018175719106 (code B ref 101728); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:19:18 UTC Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 24 Oct 2005 19:22:37 +0000 Received: from quechua.inka.de (mail.inka.de) [193.197.184.2] (mail) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 1 (Debian)) id 1EU7u1-0004vm-00; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:22:37 -0700 Received: from calista.inka.de (p54a31bbd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.163.27.189]) by mail.inka.de with esmtpsa id 1EU7tz-0006qF-Iv; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:22:35 +0200 Received: from ecki by calista.inka.de with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EU7ty-0007lL-00; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:22:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:22:34 +0200 From: Bernd Eckenfels To: control@bugs.debian.org, 101728@bugs.debian.org, 108974@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20051024192234.GA29840@lina.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: Bernd Eckenfels Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 tags 108974 + wontfix thanks this can be fixed in ifup, see Bug #101728   Acknowledgement sent to Bernd Eckenfels <be-mail2005@lina.inka.de>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Bernd Eckenfels Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (was wontfix in nettools) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20051024192234.GA29840@lina.inka.de> References: <20051024192234.GA29840@lina.inka.de> Precedence: bulk X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the package maintainer(s) and to other interested parties to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 24 Oct 2005 19:22:37 +0000 From ecki@lina.inka.de Mon Oct 24 12:22:37 2005 Return-path: Received: from quechua.inka.de (mail.inka.de) [193.197.184.2] (mail) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 1 (Debian)) id 1EU7u1-0004vm-00; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:22:37 -0700 Received: from calista.inka.de (p54a31bbd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.163.27.189]) by mail.inka.de with esmtpsa id 1EU7tz-0006qF-Iv; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:22:35 +0200 Received: from ecki by calista.inka.de with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EU7ty-0007lL-00; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:22:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:22:34 +0200 From: Bernd Eckenfels To: control@bugs.debian.org, 101728@bugs.debian.org, 108974@bugs.debian.org Subject: wontfix in nettools Message-ID: <20051024192234.GA29840@lina.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: Bernd Eckenfels Delivered-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 tags 108974 + wontfix thanks this can be fixed in ifup, see Bug #101728   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>:
Bug#101728; Package ifupdown.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#101728: Job Opportunity at Luksus Reply-To: "jeffry manish" , 101728@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: "jeffry manish" Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Anthony Towns Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:52:37 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: followup 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Debian-PR-Source: ifupdown Received: via spool by 101728-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B101728.122077382915087 (code B ref 101728); Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:52:37 +0000 Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 7 Sep 2008 07:50:29 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rietz.debian.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=4.0 tests=JOBS,MONEY autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from agsb-5d8668f1.pool.einsundeins.de ([93.134.104.241]) by rietz.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KcF2S-0003sq-MN for 101728@bugs.debian.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:50:29 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c910be$0224c3fc$44f387b6@ekpjtuag> From: "jeffry manish" To: <101728@bugs.debian.org> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:03:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 We have reviewed your resume and would like to introduce you to our current vacancy. Luksus, with headquarters in Helsinki, Finland, serves the luxury lifestyle and offers unparalleled access to the finest luxury goods. We offer a unique mix of brands, partnerships, and product expertise. We are currently hiring, work at home positions, to provide administrative assistance with sales in North America. Candidates for the job should possess excellent organizational skills as well as the ability to efficiently multi-task. Ideal candidates have a strong focus on day-to-day operational excellence. The candidate should be motivated, proactive, be able to learn and adapt quickly. Other duties include, but are not limited to: * Incorporating effective priorities for the virtual office function * Administer day-to-day financial responsibilities for clients * Reporting online daily * Preparing brief summary reports, and weekly financial reports Salary part-time (3 hours per day, Monday-Friday): $1,200/month, plus commission. If you are interested in this position please send us an email to Sandra.Collins@luksus-jobs.org expressing your interest and we will forward you the detailed job description and the working agreement. Thank You, Luksus Team   Acknowledgement sent to "jeffry manish" <vega@deltagen.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>.   -t  Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: "jeffry manish" Subject: Bug#101728: Info received (Job Opportunity at Luksus) Message-ID: References: <000701c910be$0224c3fc$44f387b6@ekpjtuag> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 101728 X-Debian-PR-Package: ifupdown X-Debian-PR-Source: ifupdown Reply-To: 101728@bugs.debian.org Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this Bug report. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Anthony Towns If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please send it to 101728@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not send mail to owner@bugs.debian.org unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. --=20 101728: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D101728 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact owner@bugs.debian.org with problems   Received: (at 101728) by bugs.debian.org; 7 Sep 2008 07:50:29 +0000 From vega@deltagen.com Sun Sep 07 07:50:29 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rietz.debian.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=4.0 tests=JOBS,MONEY autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Return-path: Received: from agsb-5d8668f1.pool.einsundeins.de ([93.134.104.241]) by rietz.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KcF2S-0003sq-MN for 101728@bugs.debian.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:50:29 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c910be$0224c3fc$44f387b6@ekpjtuag> From: "jeffry manish" To: <101728@bugs.debian.org> Subject: Job Opportunity at Luksus Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:03:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 We have reviewed your resume and would like to introduce you to our current vacancy. Luksus, with headquarters in Helsinki, Finland, serves the luxury lifestyle and offers unparalleled access to the finest luxury goods. We offer a unique mix of brands, partnerships, and product expertise. We are currently hiring, work at home positions, to provide administrative assistance with sales in North America. Candidates for the job should possess excellent organizational skills as well as the ability to efficiently multi-task. Ideal candidates have a strong focus on day-to-day operational excellence. The candidate should be motivated, proactive, be able to learn and adapt quickly. Other duties include, but are not limited to: * Incorporating effective priorities for the virtual office function * Administer day-to-day financial responsibilities for clients * Reporting online daily * Preparing brief summary reports, and weekly financial reports Salary part-time (3 hours per day, Monday-Friday): $1,200/month, plus commission. If you are interested in this position please send us an email to Sandra.Collins@luksus-jobs.org expressing your interest and we will forward you the detailed job description and the working agreement. Thank You, Luksus Team