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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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Package: netstd
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-- System Information
Debian Release: 1.2
Kernel Version: Linux dionizos 2.0.27 #1 Sat Apr 12 20:14:02 CEST 1997 i486 unknown

Versions of the packages netstd depends on:
cpp	Version: 2.7.2.1-7
libc5	Version: 5.4.23-2
libreadline2	Version: 2.1-2
ncurses3.0	Version: 1.9.9e-1
netbase	Version: 2.10-1

I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only /etc/inetd.conf.

Mirek Kwasniak



<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl</code>:<br>
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-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
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-- System Information
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Versions of the packages netstd depends on:
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I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only /etc/inetd.conf.

Mirek Kwasniak



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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote

> I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only /etc/inetd.conf.

This is not easy to implement.  Although I believe that it would
be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system to use
xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.

Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this together
and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.

My thoughts about this topic are:

. Converting routines for xinetd.conf -> inetd.conf
  an vice versa
  Problem: only a subset of possible parameters could be translated

. Rewriting update-inetd update both files or update the actual
  used configuration file - mayby determined via /etc/alternatives

. Making inetd and xinetd use update-alternatives

Just my $0.02.

Regards... Joey

-- 
  / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * joey@debian.org /
 / http://www.debian.org/              http://home.pages.de/~joey/



<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Martin Schulze &lt;joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Peter Tobias &lt;tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de&gt;</code>.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE>
Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote

> I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only /etc/inetd.conf.

This is not easy to implement.  Although I believe that it would
be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system to use
xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.

Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this together
and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.

My thoughts about this topic are:

. Converting routines for xinetd.conf -> inetd.conf
  an vice versa
  Problem: only a subset of possible parameters could be translated

. Rewriting update-inetd update both files or update the actual
  used configuration file - mayby determined via /etc/alternatives

. Making inetd and xinetd use update-alternatives

Just my $0.02.

Regards... Joey

-- 
  / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * joey@debian.org /
 / http://www.debian.org/              http://home.pages.de/~joey/



<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 01:13:56 +0200
From: Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>
To: Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE>, 8927@bugs.debian.org
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On Apr 21, Martin Schulze wrote
> On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote
> 
> > I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only /etc/inetd.conf.
> 
> This is not easy to implement.  Although I believe that it would
> be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system to use
> xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.
> 
> Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this together
> and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.
> 
> My thoughts about this topic are:
> 
> . Converting routines for xinetd.conf -> inetd.conf
>   an vice versa
>   Problem: only a subset of possible parameters could be translated
> 
> . Rewriting update-inetd update both files or update the actual
>   used configuration file - mayby determined via /etc/alternatives
> 
> . Making inetd and xinetd use update-alternatives

The main configuration file is /etc/inetd.conf. If xinetd is installed
it should convert the current /etc/inetd.conf (I think xinetd is already
doing this), update-inetd should continue to update /etc/inetd.conf
and update-inetd should call update-xinetd to add the entry to
/etc/xinetd.conf too. If the user removes xinetd there is no need
to convert the xinetd.conf file back because the normal inetd.conf
is still up to date. The user could even temporary change from xinetd
back to inetd and back to xinetd.

If there are no objections I'll modify update-inetd this way.


Thanks,

Peter

-- 
 Peter Tobias                                EMail:
 Fachhochschule Ostfriesland                 tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de
 Fachbereich Elektrotechnik und Informatik   tobias@debian.org
 Constantiaplatz 4, 26723 Emden, Germany     tobias@linux.de



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Extra info received and forwarded to list.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>
Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this problem report.  It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and
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To: Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE>, 8927@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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On Apr 21, Martin Schulze wrote
> On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote
> 
> > I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only /etc/inetd.conf.
> 
> This is not easy to implement.  Although I believe that it would
> be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system to use
> xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.
> 
> Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this together
> and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.
> 
> My thoughts about this topic are:
> 
> . Converting routines for xinetd.conf -> inetd.conf
>   an vice versa
>   Problem: only a subset of possible parameters could be translated
> 
> . Rewriting update-inetd update both files or update the actual
>   used configuration file - mayby determined via /etc/alternatives
> 
> . Making inetd and xinetd use update-alternatives

The main configuration file is /etc/inetd.conf. If xinetd is installed
it should convert the current /etc/inetd.conf (I think xinetd is already
doing this), update-inetd should continue to update /etc/inetd.conf
and update-inetd should call update-xinetd to add the entry to
/etc/xinetd.conf too. If the user removes xinetd there is no need
to convert the xinetd.conf file back because the normal inetd.conf
is still up to date. The user could even temporary change from xinetd
back to inetd and back to xinetd.

If there are no objections I'll modify update-inetd this way.


Thanks,

Peter

-- 
 Peter Tobias                                EMail:
 Fachhochschule Ostfriesland                 tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de
 Fachbereich Elektrotechnik und Informatik   tobias@debian.org
 Constantiaplatz 4, 26723 Emden, Germany     tobias@linux.de



<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Tobias &lt;tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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 Martin>
 Martin> On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote
 Martin>
 Martin> > I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only
 Martin> > /etc/inetd.conf.
 Martin>
 Martin> This is not easy to implement. Although I believe that it
 Martin> would be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system
 Martin> to use xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.
 Martin>
 Martin> Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this
 Martin> together and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.

I would be happy to, but maintainer of inetd doesn't (wasn't) seem
too be cooperative.

thks
borik

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<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>&quot;Boris D. Beletsky&quot; &lt;borik@isracom.co.il&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Peter Tobias &lt;tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de&gt;</code>.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: "Boris D. Beletsky" <borik@isracom.co.il>
Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this problem report.  It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and
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Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
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To: Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE>
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Subject: Re: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, Martin wrote:

 Martin>
 Martin> On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote
 Martin>
 Martin> > I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only
 Martin> > /etc/inetd.conf.
 Martin>
 Martin> This is not easy to implement. Although I believe that it
 Martin> would be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system
 Martin> to use xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.
 Martin>
 Martin> Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this
 Martin> together and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.

I would be happy to, but maintainer of inetd doesn't (wasn't) seem
too be cooperative.

thks
borik

- -----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
Network Administrator                   borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science,          borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880

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<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Peter> The main configuration file is /etc/inetd.conf. If xinetd
 Peter> is installed it should convert the current /etc/inetd.conf
 Peter> (I think xinetd is already doing this), update-inetd should
 Peter> continue to update /etc/inetd.conf and update-inetd should
 Peter> call update-xinetd to add the entry to /etc/xinetd.conf too.
 Peter> If the user removes xinetd there is no need to convert the
 Peter> xinetd.conf file back because the normal inetd.conf is still
 Peter> up to date. The user could even temporary change from xinetd
 Peter> back to inetd and back to xinetd.
 Peter>
 Peter> If there are no objections I'll modify update-inetd this way.
 Peter>
 Peter> Thanks,
 Peter>
 Peter> Peter

Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?

borik

- -----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
Network Administrator                   borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science,          borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880

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Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Peter Tobias &lt;tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de&gt;</code>.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: "Boris D. Beletsky" <borik@isracom.co.il>
Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Peter> The main configuration file is /etc/inetd.conf. If xinetd
 Peter> is installed it should convert the current /etc/inetd.conf
 Peter> (I think xinetd is already doing this), update-inetd should
 Peter> continue to update /etc/inetd.conf and update-inetd should
 Peter> call update-xinetd to add the entry to /etc/xinetd.conf too.
 Peter> If the user removes xinetd there is no need to convert the
 Peter> xinetd.conf file back because the normal inetd.conf is still
 Peter> up to date. The user could even temporary change from xinetd
 Peter> back to inetd and back to xinetd.
 Peter>
 Peter> If there are no objections I'll modify update-inetd this way.
 Peter>
 Peter> Thanks,
 Peter>
 Peter> Peter

Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?

borik

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<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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To: "Boris D. Beletsky" <borik@isracom.co.il>
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On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:
> 
>  Peter> The main configuration file is /etc/inetd.conf. If xinetd
>  Peter> is installed it should convert the current /etc/inetd.conf
>  Peter> (I think xinetd is already doing this), update-inetd should
>  Peter> continue to update /etc/inetd.conf and update-inetd should
>  Peter> call update-xinetd to add the entry to /etc/xinetd.conf too.
>  Peter> If the user removes xinetd there is no need to convert the
>  Peter> xinetd.conf file back because the normal inetd.conf is still
>  Peter> up to date. The user could even temporary change from xinetd
>  Peter> back to inetd and back to xinetd.
>  Peter>
>  Peter> If there are no objections I'll modify update-inetd this way.
>  Peter>
>  Peter> Thanks,
>  Peter>
>  Peter> Peter
> 
> Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?

Because update-xinetd doesn't support all options of update-inetd.
Where is the problem of keeping both xinetd.conf and inetd.conf up
to date? If the user removes/purges xinetd the prerm/postrm could
ask if the user wants to try to convert xinetd.conf back to inetd.conf
or if the user wants to use the current inetd.conf.

The changes to update-inetd.conf should be quite small. It should
simply save the original command line options, check for update-xinetd
and call it with the saved command line options.


Thanks,

Peter

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 Fachbereich Elektrotechnik und Informatik   tobias@debian.org
 Constantiaplatz 4, 26723 Emden, Germany     tobias@linux.de



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Extra info received and forwarded to list.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
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On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:
> 
>  Peter> The main configuration file is /etc/inetd.conf. If xinetd
>  Peter> is installed it should convert the current /etc/inetd.conf
>  Peter> (I think xinetd is already doing this), update-inetd should
>  Peter> continue to update /etc/inetd.conf and update-inetd should
>  Peter> call update-xinetd to add the entry to /etc/xinetd.conf too.
>  Peter> If the user removes xinetd there is no need to convert the
>  Peter> xinetd.conf file back because the normal inetd.conf is still
>  Peter> up to date. The user could even temporary change from xinetd
>  Peter> back to inetd and back to xinetd.
>  Peter>
>  Peter> If there are no objections I'll modify update-inetd this way.
>  Peter>
>  Peter> Thanks,
>  Peter>
>  Peter> Peter
> 
> Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?

Because update-xinetd doesn't support all options of update-inetd.
Where is the problem of keeping both xinetd.conf and inetd.conf up
to date? If the user removes/purges xinetd the prerm/postrm could
ask if the user wants to try to convert xinetd.conf back to inetd.conf
or if the user wants to use the current inetd.conf.

The changes to update-inetd.conf should be quite small. It should
simply save the original command line options, check for update-xinetd
and call it with the saved command line options.


Thanks,

Peter

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<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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To: "Boris D. Beletsky" <borik@isracom.co.il>, 8927@bugs.debian.org
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On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, Martin wrote:
> 
>  Martin>
>  Martin> On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote
>  Martin>
>  Martin> > I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only
>  Martin> > /etc/inetd.conf.
>  Martin>
>  Martin> This is not easy to implement. Although I believe that it
>  Martin> would be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system
>  Martin> to use xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.
>  Martin>
>  Martin> Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this
>  Martin> together and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.
> 
> I would be happy to, but maintainer of inetd doesn't (wasn't) seem
> too be cooperative.

Come on, you know that this is not true. At the time we discussed
that there was no update-xinetd program. I also said that the normal
inetd.conf should always be updated. It is better to have a current
inetd.conf than to convert the xinetd.conf back.


Thanks,

Peter

-- 
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 Fachbereich Elektrotechnik und Informatik   tobias@debian.org
 Constantiaplatz 4, 26723 Emden, Germany     tobias@linux.de



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Extra info received and forwarded to list.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this problem report.  It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and
to the developers' mailing list to accompany the original report.

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> 
>  Martin>
>  Martin> On Apr 21, mirek@zind.ikem.pwr.wroc.pl wrote
>  Martin>
>  Martin> > I have xinetd installed, but update-inetd updates only
>  Martin> > /etc/inetd.conf.
>  Martin>
>  Martin> This is not easy to implement. Although I believe that it
>  Martin> would be a good invention if one could switch a Debian system
>  Martin> to use xinetd instead of inetd on the fly.
>  Martin>
>  Martin> Both maintainer of xinetd and inetd should discuss this
>  Martin> together and find a way how to get out of this dilemma.
> 
> I would be happy to, but maintainer of inetd doesn't (wasn't) seem
> too be cooperative.

Come on, you know that this is not true. At the time we discussed
that there was no update-xinetd program. I also said that the normal
inetd.conf should always be updated. It is better to have a current
inetd.conf than to convert the xinetd.conf back.


Thanks,

Peter

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<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Boris> Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?

 Peter> Because update-xinetd doesn't support all options of
 Peter> update-inetd. Where is the problem of keeping both xinetd.conf
 Peter> and inetd.conf up to date? If the user removes/purges xinetd
 Peter> the prerm/postrm could ask if the user wants to try to convert
 Peter> xinetd.conf back to inetd.conf or if the user wants to use the
 Peter> current inetd.conf.

First of all, I just realized that I have not yet release xinetd
package into the distribution that will contain update-xinetd (it's
on the way), but you are talking about it as if you are already
familiar with it... Second, you right. Third, update-xinetd that I
have here far from be compatible with update-inetd, I was thinking
of making it compatible but the we will lose all the advantages of
xinetd (that _was_ the idea for update-alt). If you can convince
update-inetd to talk to my update-xinetd, great } else { I should
make update-xinetd pretend to be update-inetd. Your decision...

 Peter> The changes to update-inetd.conf should be quite small. It
 Peter> should simply save the original command line options, check
 Peter> for update-xinetd and call it with the saved command line
 Peter> options.
 Peter>
 Peter> Thanks,
 Peter>
 Peter> Peter

thks,
borik
 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
System Group 	 			borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science           borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880





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-t

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Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Boris> Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?

 Peter> Because update-xinetd doesn't support all options of
 Peter> update-inetd. Where is the problem of keeping both xinetd.conf
 Peter> and inetd.conf up to date? If the user removes/purges xinetd
 Peter> the prerm/postrm could ask if the user wants to try to convert
 Peter> xinetd.conf back to inetd.conf or if the user wants to use the
 Peter> current inetd.conf.

First of all, I just realized that I have not yet release xinetd
package into the distribution that will contain update-xinetd (it's
on the way), but you are talking about it as if you are already
familiar with it... Second, you right. Third, update-xinetd that I
have here far from be compatible with update-inetd, I was thinking
of making it compatible but the we will lose all the advantages of
xinetd (that _was_ the idea for update-alt). If you can convince
update-inetd to talk to my update-xinetd, great } else { I should
make update-xinetd pretend to be update-inetd. Your decision...

 Peter> The changes to update-inetd.conf should be quite small. It
 Peter> should simply save the original command line options, check
 Peter> for update-xinetd and call it with the saved command line
 Peter> options.
 Peter>
 Peter> Thanks,
 Peter>
 Peter> Peter

thks,
borik
 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
System Group 	 			borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science           borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880





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<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Peter> Come on, you know that this is not true. At the time we
 Peter> discussed that there was no update-xinetd program. I also
 Peter> said that the normal inetd.conf should always be updated. It
 Peter> is better to have a current inetd.conf than to convert the
 Peter> xinetd.conf back.

Well, at the time we were arguing about the subject you sounded like:
if you want to have xinetd in the distribution, fine but make it as
invisible as you can. Maybe I got it the wrong way, sorry then.


 Peter> Thanks,
 Peter>
 Peter> Peter

thks,
borik
 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
System Group 	 			borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science           borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880
 




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-t

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>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Peter> Come on, you know that this is not true. At the time we
 Peter> discussed that there was no update-xinetd program. I also
 Peter> said that the normal inetd.conf should always be updated. It
 Peter> is better to have a current inetd.conf than to convert the
 Peter> xinetd.conf back.

Well, at the time we were arguing about the subject you sounded like:
if you want to have xinetd in the distribution, fine but make it as
invisible as you can. Maybe I got it the wrong way, sorry then.


 Peter> Thanks,
 Peter>
 Peter> Peter

thks,
borik
 
-----------------------------------------------------------
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<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

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On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote

> Well, at the time we were arguing about the subject you sounded like:
> if you want to have xinetd in the distribution, fine but make it as
> invisible as you can. Maybe I got it the wrong way, sorry then.

Even if this should be the case.  Please remember that time
may change many things.  I could believe that I said something
like this because of the problems with incompatibilities of
one very important package which could be replaced by another.
This must cause problems.  So... there must be a solution
somehow and it seems to me that you both will end up in an
proper solution.

Regards... Joey

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On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote

> Well, at the time we were arguing about the subject you sounded like:
> if you want to have xinetd in the distribution, fine but make it as
> invisible as you can. Maybe I got it the wrong way, sorry then.

Even if this should be the case.  Please remember that time
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like this because of the problems with incompatibilities of
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proper solution.

Regards... Joey

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 / http://www.debian.org/              http://home.pages.de/~joey/



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>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote:

 Boris> Well, at the time we were arguing about the subject
 Boris> you sounded like: if you want to have xinetd in the
 Boris> distribution, fine but make it as invisible as you can.
 Boris> Maybe I got it the wrong way, sorry then.

>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Martin wrote:

 Martin> Even if this should be the case. Please remember that time
 Martin> may change many things. 

Time changes nothing, only things happened during that time.

 Martin> I could believe that I said something
 Martin> like this because of the problems with incompatibilities
 Martin> of one very important package which could be replaced by
 Martin> another. This must cause problems. 

Well I am not sure what changed then, but I am glad that we finaly
in process of solving this (up?).

 Martin> So... there must be a
 Martin> solution somehow and it seems to me that you both will end up
 Martin> in an proper solution.

You and your big mouth ;-).

 Martin> Regards... Joey

Cheers,
borik

- -----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
Network Administrator                   borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science,          borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880

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<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>&quot;Boris D. Beletsky&quot; &lt;borik@isracom.co.il&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Peter Tobias &lt;tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de&gt;</code>.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: "Boris D. Beletsky" <borik@isracom.co.il>
Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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To: Martin Schulze <joey@tapiola.Infodrom.North.DE>
cc: Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>, 8927@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote:

 Boris> Well, at the time we were arguing about the subject
 Boris> you sounded like: if you want to have xinetd in the
 Boris> distribution, fine but make it as invisible as you can.
 Boris> Maybe I got it the wrong way, sorry then.

>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Martin wrote:

 Martin> Even if this should be the case. Please remember that time
 Martin> may change many things. 

Time changes nothing, only things happened during that time.

 Martin> I could believe that I said something
 Martin> like this because of the problems with incompatibilities
 Martin> of one very important package which could be replaced by
 Martin> another. This must cause problems. 

Well I am not sure what changed then, but I am glad that we finaly
in process of solving this (up?).

 Martin> So... there must be a
 Martin> solution somehow and it seems to me that you both will end up
 Martin> in an proper solution.

You and your big mouth ;-).

 Martin> Regards... Joey

Cheers,
borik

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Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
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<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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From: Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>
To: "Boris D. Beletsky" <borik@isracom.co.il>, 8927@bugs.debian.org
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On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote
>  Boris> Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?
> 
>  Peter> Because update-xinetd doesn't support all options of
>  Peter> update-inetd. Where is the problem of keeping both xinetd.conf
>  Peter> and inetd.conf up to date? If the user removes/purges xinetd
>  Peter> the prerm/postrm could ask if the user wants to try to convert
>  Peter> xinetd.conf back to inetd.conf or if the user wants to use the
>  Peter> current inetd.conf.
> 
> First of all, I just realized that I have not yet release xinetd
> package into the distribution that will contain update-xinetd (it's
> on the way), but you are talking about it as if you are already
> familiar with it... Second, you right. Third, update-xinetd that I

Either you released such an xinetd package or you sent me a copy
directly.  The xinetd package I'm talking about contained an
update-xinetd program (if I remember correctly it was written in
either C or C++).

> have here far from be compatible with update-inetd, I was thinking
> of making it compatible but the we will lose all the advantages of
> xinetd (that _was_ the idea for update-alt). If you can convince
> update-inetd to talk to my update-xinetd, great } else { I should
> make update-xinetd pretend to be update-inetd. Your decision...

No matter what we do, update-xinetd has to support the following
options:

  --add
  --remove
  --enable
  --disable
  --pattern
  --group
  --comment-chars
  --multi

If update-xinetd supports these options it could be used with
update-alt. But as I said before, I prefer to call update-xinetd
from update-inetd instead of using update-alt. The advantage is
that we have both a working xinetd.conf AND a working inetd.conf
(no disadvantages).


Thanks,

Peter

-- 
 Peter Tobias                                EMail:
 Fachhochschule Ostfriesland                 tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de
 Fachbereich Elektrotechnik und Informatik   tobias@debian.org
 Constantiaplatz 4, 26723 Emden, Germany     tobias@linux.de



<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Peter Tobias &lt;tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>
Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
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Subject: Re: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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On Apr 24, Boris D. Beletsky wrote
>  Boris> Why not use update-alt for update-inetd and thats all?
> 
>  Peter> Because update-xinetd doesn't support all options of
>  Peter> update-inetd. Where is the problem of keeping both xinetd.conf
>  Peter> and inetd.conf up to date? If the user removes/purges xinetd
>  Peter> the prerm/postrm could ask if the user wants to try to convert
>  Peter> xinetd.conf back to inetd.conf or if the user wants to use the
>  Peter> current inetd.conf.
> 
> First of all, I just realized that I have not yet release xinetd
> package into the distribution that will contain update-xinetd (it's
> on the way), but you are talking about it as if you are already
> familiar with it... Second, you right. Third, update-xinetd that I

Either you released such an xinetd package or you sent me a copy
directly.  The xinetd package I'm talking about contained an
update-xinetd program (if I remember correctly it was written in
either C or C++).

> have here far from be compatible with update-inetd, I was thinking
> of making it compatible but the we will lose all the advantages of
> xinetd (that _was_ the idea for update-alt). If you can convince
> update-inetd to talk to my update-xinetd, great } else { I should
> make update-xinetd pretend to be update-inetd. Your decision...

No matter what we do, update-xinetd has to support the following
options:

  --add
  --remove
  --enable
  --disable
  --pattern
  --group
  --comment-chars
  --multi

If update-xinetd supports these options it could be used with
update-alt. But as I said before, I prefer to call update-xinetd
from update-inetd instead of using update-alt. The advantage is
that we have both a working xinetd.conf AND a working inetd.conf
(no disadvantages).


Thanks,

Peter

-- 
 Peter Tobias                                EMail:
 Fachhochschule Ostfriesland                 tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de
 Fachbereich Elektrotechnik und Informatik   tobias@debian.org
 Constantiaplatz 4, 26723 Emden, Germany     tobias@linux.de



<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Peter Tobias &lt;tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netstd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPeter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>

Subject: Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf
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>>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Peter> Either you released such an xinetd package or you sent me a
 Peter> copy directly. The xinetd package I'm talking about contained
 Peter> an update-xinetd program (if I remember correctly it was
 Peter> written in either C or C++).

Maybe I just don't remember I have, new fixed xinetd is on the way, I
hold it only for our decision.

 Peter> No matter what we do, update-xinetd has to support the
 Peter> following options:
 Peter>
 Peter>   --add remove enable disable pattern group comment-chars
 Peter>   --multi
 Peter>
 Peter> If update-xinetd supports these options it could be used
 Peter> with update-alt. But as I said before, I prefer to call
 Peter> update-xinetd from update-inetd instead of using update-alt.
 Peter> The advantage is that we have both a working xinetd.conf AND a
 Peter> working inetd.conf (no disadvantages).

If you have the update-xinetd (and there was only one (written by
Vadik Vygonets)) you can test it and see if you can call it from
update-inetd, if you can - great, else we can improve it for the
needs of update-inetd.

thks
borik

P.S I. do not insist on using update-alt, just thought it would be
the easiest for you.

- -----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
Network Administrator                   borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science,          borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880

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<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>&quot;Boris D. Beletsky&quot; &lt;borik@isracom.co.il&gt;</code>:<br>
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-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: "Boris D. Beletsky" <borik@isracom.co.il>
Subject: Bug#8927: Info received (was Bug#8927: netstd: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf)
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Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this problem report.  It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and
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Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
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>>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Peter wrote:

 Peter> Either you released such an xinetd package or you sent me a
 Peter> copy directly. The xinetd package I'm talking about contained
 Peter> an update-xinetd program (if I remember correctly it was
 Peter> written in either C or C++).

Maybe I just don't remember I have, new fixed xinetd is on the way, I
hold it only for our decision.

 Peter> No matter what we do, update-xinetd has to support the
 Peter> following options:
 Peter>
 Peter>   --add remove enable disable pattern group comment-chars
 Peter>   --multi
 Peter>
 Peter> If update-xinetd supports these options it could be used
 Peter> with update-alt. But as I said before, I prefer to call
 Peter> update-xinetd from update-inetd instead of using update-alt.
 Peter> The advantage is that we have both a working xinetd.conf AND a
 Peter> working inetd.conf (no disadvantages).

If you have the update-xinetd (and there was only one (written by
Vadik Vygonets)) you can test it and see if you can call it from
update-inetd, if you can - great, else we can improve it for the
needs of update-inetd.

thks
borik

P.S I. do not insist on using update-alt, just thought it would be
the easiest for you.

- -----------------------------------------------------------
Boris D. Beletsky                          borik@debian.org
Network Administrator                   borik@cs.huji.ac.il
Institute of Computer Science,          borik@isracom.co.il
Hebrew University Jerusalem            home: +972 2 6411880

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<strong>Bug reassigned from package `netstd' to `netbase'.</strong>
Request was from <code>Herbert Xu &lt;herbert@gondor.apana.org.au&gt;</code>
to <code>control@bugs.debian.org</code>. 


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reassign 8927 netbase



<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns &lt;ajt@debian.org&gt;</code>:<br>
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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>

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I spent some time trying to fix up /usr/doc/perl5/DebianNet.pm and I
noticed that some of the semantics are specific to /etc/inetd.conf's
file format.

In particular, the --pattern option let's you search across multiple
fields in inetd.conf.  Since xinetd has a very different field structure,
this kind of pattern should be expected to fail under xinetd.

So unless the semantics of --pattern are drastically limited (and bugs
filed against packages which use the inetd specific semantics) you're
not going to be able to have a reasonable implementation of update-xinetd.

-- 
Raul



<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Raul Miller &lt;raul@usatoday.com&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Anthony Towns &lt;ajt@debian.org&gt;</code>.


-t

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I spent some time trying to fix up /usr/doc/perl5/DebianNet.pm and I
noticed that some of the semantics are specific to /etc/inetd.conf's
file format.

In particular, the --pattern option let's you search across multiple
fields in inetd.conf.  Since xinetd has a very different field structure,
this kind of pattern should be expected to fail under xinetd.

So unless the semantics of --pattern are drastically limited (and bugs
filed against packages which use the inetd specific semantics) you're
not going to be able to have a reasonable implementation of update-xinetd.

-- 
Raul



<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Anthony Towns &lt;ajt@debian.org&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>netbase</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgAnthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>

Subject: Bug#8927: update-inetd: support for xinetd.
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I've made a very basic DebianXNet.pm for dealing with xinetd.conf the
way DebianNet.pm deals with inetd.conf.

This is a short term solution to #8927 and #10059. On a longer term it
would be nice if update-inetd also could deal with extensions to the
standard inetd capabilities. But this would probally be a larger
rewrite of update-inetd and I havn't got the time to do that before
freeze.

It would be nice to merge the bug so please respond which package you
think should fix this bug. (If nothing more than this DebianXNet.pm is
made it could be done in xinetd, but I like to improve update-inetd
capabilities and so will netbase be more appropiate) 

It still takes some work to integrate with the update-inetd script but
I think that part is pretty trivial.


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Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DebianXNet.pm
Content-Description: xinetd.conf plugin for update-inetd

# DebianXNet.pm: a perl module to add entries to the /etc/xinetd.conf file
#
# Copyright (C) 1999 Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net>
#
#
# Don't assume anything about the internals of this file but
# the following API:
#
# DebianXNet::add_service($newentry, $group);
# DebianXNet::disable_service($service);
# DebianXNet::enable_service($service);
# DebianXNet::remove_service($entry);
#

package DebianXNet;

require 5.000;

$inetdcf="/etc/xinetd.conf";
$VERSION = 0.01;


# Sane ordering of keys in xinetd's configure: 
my @xinetdkeys = (id, type, rpc_version, socket_type, protocol, user, group,instances, server, server_args);

sub add_service { 
    my ($entry, $group) = @_;
    unless (defined($entry)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($entry); chomp($group);
    $group = "OTHER" unless (defined($group));
    $group =~ tr/a-z/A-Z/;
    $entry =~ s/\\t/\t/g;

    print STDERR "entry: $entry\ngroup: $group\n";

    my %entry = &inetd2hash($entry);

    open(ICREAD,"$inetdcf")|| dir("Couldn't open $inetdcf: ");
    @xinetd = <ICREAD>;
    close(ICREAD);

    my $found = 0;
    foreach (@xinetd) {
        next if (/\s*#/);
	if (/service\s$entry{service}/) {
	    $found = 1;
	    last;

	}
	next;
    }

    if ($found) {
        enable_service($entry{service});
	return 1;
    }



    $found = 0;
    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    foreach (@xinetd) {
        print ICWRITE $_;
        if (/^#:$group:/ && !$found) {
	    $found++;
	    print ICWRITE "service $entry{service}\n{\n";
	    foreach (@xinetdkeys) {
	        if (exists $entry{$_}) { 
		    printf ICWRITE "        %-15s = %s\n", $_, $entry{$_};
		}
	    }
	    print ICWRITE "}\n";
	
	}
    }

    if (!$found) {
	print ICWRITE "#:$group:\n";
	print ICWRITE "service $entry{service}\n{\n";
	foreach (@xinetdkeys) {
	    if (exists $entry{$_}) { 
		printf ICWRITE "        %-15s = %s\n", $_, $entry{$_};
	    }
	}
	print ICWRITE "}\n";
	    
    }
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);

}    


sub remove_service {
    my $service = shift;
    unless (defined($service)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($service);

    open(ICREAD,"$inetdcf")|| dir("Couldn't open $inetdcf: ");
    @xinetd = <ICREAD>;
    close(ICREAD);

    if (grep(/^service\s$service/,@xinetd) > 1 && !defined($multi)) {
        print "\nWARNING!!!!!! $inetdcf contains multiple entries for \n";
        print "the \`$service' service. You're about to disable these entries.\n";
        print "Do you want to continue? [n] ";
        if (<STDIN> =~ /^[^y]/i) {
            print "\nOk, I'll stop ...\n";
            return(1);
        } else {
            if ($want_continue == 0) {
                print "\nOk, I'll continue ...\n";
            }
        }
    }

    
    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";

    my $level = 0;
    my $remove = 0;

    foreach (@xinetd) {
        $level++ if ($_ =~ /{/);
	$level-- if ($_ =~ /}/);
	if (!$level && /service\s$service/) {
	    $remove++;
	    next;
	}
	print ICWRITE "$_" unless $remove;
	$remove-- if($remove && !$level);
    }
    
    close(ICREAD);
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);
}    

sub disable_service {
    my $service = shift;
    unless (defined($service)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($service);
    
    open(ICREAD,"$inetdcf")|| dir("Couldn't open $inetdcf: ");
    @xinetd = <ICREAD>;
    close(ICREAD);

    if (grep(/^service\s$service/,@xinetd) > 1 && !defined($multi)) {
        print "\nWARNING!!!!!! $inetdcf contains multiple entries for \n";
        print "the \`$service' service. You're about to disable these entries.\n";
        print "Do you want to continue? [n] ";
        if (<STDIN> =~ /^[^y]/i) {
            print "\nOk, I'll stop ...\n";
            return(1);
        } else {
            if ($want_continue == 0) {
                print "\nOk, I'll continue ...\n";
            }
        }
    }

    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    my $level = 0;
    my $defaults = 0;
    my $done = 0;
    foreach (@xinetd) {
        $level++ if ($_ =~ /{/);
        $level-- if ($_ =~ /}/);
	if (!$level && !$done && $defaults) {
	    print ICWRITE "        disabled        = $service\n";
	    $done = 1;
	    $defaults = 0;
	}
	$defaults++ if ($_ =~ /defaults/ && !$level);
	print ICWRITE "$_";
    }
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);
}
				
sub enable_service {
    my $service = shift;
    unless (defined($service)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($service);
    
    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    open(ICREAD, "$inetdcf");
    
    my $level = 0;
    my $defaults = 0;
    my $done = 0;
    while(<ICREAD>) {
	print ICWRITE "$_" unless (!(/^\s*#/) && /disabled\s*=\s*$service/);
    }
    close(ICREAD);
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);
}
    

sub wakeup_inetd {
    print STDERR "Not done yet\n";
}


#Transform an inetd configuration line to a hash containing the arguments.
sub inetd2hash {
    my $line = shift;
    my %hash;
    ($service,$type,$protocol,$wait,$user,$prg,$arg) = ($line =~ /\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(.*)/);
    if ($service =~ /(\w*)\/(.*)/) {
        $hash{service} = $1;
	$hash{rpc_version} = $2;
	$hash{type} = 'RPC';
    } else { 
        $hash{service} = $service;
    }
    $hash{socket_type} = $type;
    if ($protocol =~ /(\w*)$/) {
        $hash{protocol} = $1;
    }
    if ($wait =~ /no/) {
        $hash{wait} = 'no'

    } else {
        $hash{wait} = 'yes';
    }
    if ($wait =~ /\.(\d*)/) {
        $hash{instances} = $1;
    }
    if ($user =~ /(\w*)\.(\w*)/) {
        $hash{user} = $1;
	$hash{group} = $2;
    } else {
        $hash{user} = $user;
    }
    if ($prg =~ /internal/) {
	$hash{type} = 'INTERNAL';
    } else {
        $hash{server} = $prg;
    }
    $hash{server_args} = $arg;
    return %hash;
}

1;

--=-=-=

 
-- 
I congratulate you. Happy goldfish bowl to you, to me, to everyone,
and may each of you fry in hell forever. 
                                    -- Isaac Asimov, "The Dead Past"





--=-=-=--



<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Peter Makholm &lt;peter@makholm.net&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Anthony Towns &lt;ajt@debian.org&gt;</code>.


-t

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To: Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net>
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--=-=-=

I've made a very basic DebianXNet.pm for dealing with xinetd.conf the
way DebianNet.pm deals with inetd.conf.

This is a short term solution to #8927 and #10059. On a longer term it
would be nice if update-inetd also could deal with extensions to the
standard inetd capabilities. But this would probally be a larger
rewrite of update-inetd and I havn't got the time to do that before
freeze.

It would be nice to merge the bug so please respond which package you
think should fix this bug. (If nothing more than this DebianXNet.pm is
made it could be done in xinetd, but I like to improve update-inetd
capabilities and so will netbase be more appropiate) 

It still takes some work to integrate with the update-inetd script but
I think that part is pretty trivial.


--=-=-=
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DebianXNet.pm
Content-Description: xinetd.conf plugin for update-inetd

# DebianXNet.pm: a perl module to add entries to the /etc/xinetd.conf file
#
# Copyright (C) 1999 Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net>
#
#
# Don't assume anything about the internals of this file but
# the following API:
#
# DebianXNet::add_service($newentry, $group);
# DebianXNet::disable_service($service);
# DebianXNet::enable_service($service);
# DebianXNet::remove_service($entry);
#

package DebianXNet;

require 5.000;

$inetdcf="/etc/xinetd.conf";
$VERSION = 0.01;


# Sane ordering of keys in xinetd's configure: 
my @xinetdkeys = (id, type, rpc_version, socket_type, protocol, user, group,instances, server, server_args);

sub add_service { 
    my ($entry, $group) = @_;
    unless (defined($entry)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($entry); chomp($group);
    $group = "OTHER" unless (defined($group));
    $group =~ tr/a-z/A-Z/;
    $entry =~ s/\\t/\t/g;

    print STDERR "entry: $entry\ngroup: $group\n";

    my %entry = &inetd2hash($entry);

    open(ICREAD,"$inetdcf")|| dir("Couldn't open $inetdcf: ");
    @xinetd = <ICREAD>;
    close(ICREAD);

    my $found = 0;
    foreach (@xinetd) {
        next if (/\s*#/);
	if (/service\s$entry{service}/) {
	    $found = 1;
	    last;

	}
	next;
    }

    if ($found) {
        enable_service($entry{service});
	return 1;
    }



    $found = 0;
    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    foreach (@xinetd) {
        print ICWRITE $_;
        if (/^#:$group:/ && !$found) {
	    $found++;
	    print ICWRITE "service $entry{service}\n{\n";
	    foreach (@xinetdkeys) {
	        if (exists $entry{$_}) { 
		    printf ICWRITE "        %-15s = %s\n", $_, $entry{$_};
		}
	    }
	    print ICWRITE "}\n";
	
	}
    }

    if (!$found) {
	print ICWRITE "#:$group:\n";
	print ICWRITE "service $entry{service}\n{\n";
	foreach (@xinetdkeys) {
	    if (exists $entry{$_}) { 
		printf ICWRITE "        %-15s = %s\n", $_, $entry{$_};
	    }
	}
	print ICWRITE "}\n";
	    
    }
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);

}    


sub remove_service {
    my $service = shift;
    unless (defined($service)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($service);

    open(ICREAD,"$inetdcf")|| dir("Couldn't open $inetdcf: ");
    @xinetd = <ICREAD>;
    close(ICREAD);

    if (grep(/^service\s$service/,@xinetd) > 1 && !defined($multi)) {
        print "\nWARNING!!!!!! $inetdcf contains multiple entries for \n";
        print "the \`$service' service. You're about to disable these entries.\n";
        print "Do you want to continue? [n] ";
        if (<STDIN> =~ /^[^y]/i) {
            print "\nOk, I'll stop ...\n";
            return(1);
        } else {
            if ($want_continue == 0) {
                print "\nOk, I'll continue ...\n";
            }
        }
    }

    
    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";

    my $level = 0;
    my $remove = 0;

    foreach (@xinetd) {
        $level++ if ($_ =~ /{/);
	$level-- if ($_ =~ /}/);
	if (!$level && /service\s$service/) {
	    $remove++;
	    next;
	}
	print ICWRITE "$_" unless $remove;
	$remove-- if($remove && !$level);
    }
    
    close(ICREAD);
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);
}    

sub disable_service {
    my $service = shift;
    unless (defined($service)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($service);
    
    open(ICREAD,"$inetdcf")|| dir("Couldn't open $inetdcf: ");
    @xinetd = <ICREAD>;
    close(ICREAD);

    if (grep(/^service\s$service/,@xinetd) > 1 && !defined($multi)) {
        print "\nWARNING!!!!!! $inetdcf contains multiple entries for \n";
        print "the \`$service' service. You're about to disable these entries.\n";
        print "Do you want to continue? [n] ";
        if (<STDIN> =~ /^[^y]/i) {
            print "\nOk, I'll stop ...\n";
            return(1);
        } else {
            if ($want_continue == 0) {
                print "\nOk, I'll continue ...\n";
            }
        }
    }

    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    my $level = 0;
    my $defaults = 0;
    my $done = 0;
    foreach (@xinetd) {
        $level++ if ($_ =~ /{/);
        $level-- if ($_ =~ /}/);
	if (!$level && !$done && $defaults) {
	    print ICWRITE "        disabled        = $service\n";
	    $done = 1;
	    $defaults = 0;
	}
	$defaults++ if ($_ =~ /defaults/ && !$level);
	print ICWRITE "$_";
    }
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);
}
				
sub enable_service {
    my $service = shift;
    unless (defined($service)) { return(-1) };
    chomp($service);
    
    open(ICWRITE, ">$inetdcf.new") || die "Error creating new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    open(ICREAD, "$inetdcf");
    
    my $level = 0;
    my $defaults = 0;
    my $done = 0;
    while(<ICREAD>) {
	print ICWRITE "$_" unless (!(/^\s*#/) && /disabled\s*=\s*$service/);
    }
    close(ICREAD);
    close(ICWRITE) || die "Error closing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    
    rename("$inetdcf.new","$inetdcf") ||
    die "Error installing new $inetdcf: $!\n";
    umask(000); chmod(0644, "$inetdcf");
    
    &wakeup_inetd;
    return(1);
}
    

sub wakeup_inetd {
    print STDERR "Not done yet\n";
}


#Transform an inetd configuration line to a hash containing the arguments.
sub inetd2hash {
    my $line = shift;
    my %hash;
    ($service,$type,$protocol,$wait,$user,$prg,$arg) = ($line =~ /\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(\S*)\s*(.*)/);
    if ($service =~ /(\w*)\/(.*)/) {
        $hash{service} = $1;
	$hash{rpc_version} = $2;
	$hash{type} = 'RPC';
    } else { 
        $hash{service} = $service;
    }
    $hash{socket_type} = $type;
    if ($protocol =~ /(\w*)$/) {
        $hash{protocol} = $1;
    }
    if ($wait =~ /no/) {
        $hash{wait} = 'no'

    } else {
        $hash{wait} = 'yes';
    }
    if ($wait =~ /\.(\d*)/) {
        $hash{instances} = $1;
    }
    if ($user =~ /(\w*)\.(\w*)/) {
        $hash{user} = $1;
	$hash{group} = $2;
    } else {
        $hash{user} = $user;
    }
    if ($prg =~ /internal/) {
	$hash{type} = 'INTERNAL';
    } else {
        $hash{server} = $prg;
    }
    $hash{server_args} = $arg;
    return %hash;
}

1;

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<strong>Merged 8927 10059 25816.</strong>
Request was from <code>Josip Rodin &lt;jrodin@public.srce.hr&gt;</code>
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reassign 25816 netbase
merge 8927 25816
thanks

As the subject says, this needs to be implemented in update-inetd,
nowhere else. So I'll reassign it to netbase and merge it with the
rest.

Peter Makholm (brother) already did some work on it, but I haven't
seen anything else... and we have a big fat warning in current
update-inetd implemented.

I appologize in advance if anyone else already handled these bugs,
I'm as up to date as master.debian.org BTS web pages. :)

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<strong>Bug reassigned from package `netbase' to `update-inetd'.</strong>
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<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d&#39;Itri &lt;md@linux.it&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>update-inetd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgMarco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

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Boy, what an old bug!

This has been discussed some times[1], but no conclusion reached. I'd like =
to=20
suggest (again, probably) the following:

Packages containing servers that can be started from inetd should all provi=
de=20
an xinetd configuration file in /etc/xinetd.d. They will instantly work wit=
h=20
xinetd, and update-inetd can use the information, which is a superset=20
(right?) of that used by other inetd's, to update the old-school inetd.conf.

I think the situation is similar to the Debian menu .menu vs .desktop debat=
e,=20
where the .desktop files contain a superset of the information in the .menu=
=20
files, so by providing the former, a package instantly works with OpenDeskt=
op=20
environments, and update-menus/install-menu can use the data to support the=
=20
simpler window/desktop managers (the services are the applications that=20
provide menu entries, and the inetd variants are the window managers that=20
display the menu entries).

Jean-Christophe Dubacq suggested in the second thread below that a common=20
format be used to configuration data, from which the various configuration=
=20
files can be generated, but that thread seems to have died.

A legitimate question is whether the xinetd configuration format is a good=
=20
format. Are there, or will there be, even more "extended" inetd:s?

As a comparison, most packages on SUSE seem to provide xinetd configs, whil=
e=20
only three Debian packages do so.

[1] For example=20
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/02/msg00446.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/08/msg01265.html

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Boy, what an old bug!

This has been discussed some times[1], but no conclusion reached. I'd like =
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Packages containing servers that can be started from inetd should all provi=
de=20
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e,=20
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=20
files, so by providing the former, a package instantly works with OpenDeskt=
op=20
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=20
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Jean-Christophe Dubacq suggested in the second thread below that a common=20
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=20
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A legitimate question is whether the xinetd configuration format is a good=
=20
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As a comparison, most packages on SUSE seem to provide xinetd configs, whil=
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<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>update-inetd</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgMarco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

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Magnus Holmgren <holmgren@lysator.liu.se> writes:

> Boy, what an old bug!

> This has been discussed some times[1], but no conclusion reached. I'd
> like to suggest (again, probably) the following:

As near as I can tell, the reason why no conclusion has been reached is
because no one has written the code for any of the various reasonable
solutions that have been proposed.  Everyone seems to be waiting for the
inetd maintainer to write the code for their proposed solution, which he
has said repeatedly he doesn't have time to do.

It's good that you asked here about what people think of your solution.
Personally, I dislike xinetd and don't want to use it, but I don't have a
problem using its format as the input format (it's better than what
update-inetd uses now).  However, any replacement update-inetd also has to
support the old format and ideally should be able to write xinetd
configurations based on it for a transition period.

However, even more importantly than the discussion of possible solutions,
we need an implementation.  If you have a solution, please *implement* it
(and in a way that doesn't make large parts of Debian buggy, which means
being backwardly compatible) and I bet you'll be able to build a consensus
around your solution as long as it's halfway reasonable.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Russ Allbery &lt;rra@debian.org&gt;</code>:<br>
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Magnus Holmgren <holmgren@lysator.liu.se> writes:

> Boy, what an old bug!

> This has been discussed some times[1], but no conclusion reached. I'd
> like to suggest (again, probably) the following:

As near as I can tell, the reason why no conclusion has been reached is
because no one has written the code for any of the various reasonable
solutions that have been proposed.  Everyone seems to be waiting for the
inetd maintainer to write the code for their proposed solution, which he
has said repeatedly he doesn't have time to do.

It's good that you asked here about what people think of your solution.
Personally, I dislike xinetd and don't want to use it, but I don't have a
problem using its format as the input format (it's better than what
update-inetd uses now).  However, any replacement update-inetd also has to
support the old format and ideally should be able to write xinetd
configurations based on it for a transition period.

However, even more importantly than the discussion of possible solutions,
we need an implementation.  If you have a solution, please *implement* it
(and in a way that doesn't make large parts of Debian buggy, which means
being backwardly compatible) and I bet you'll be able to build a consensus
around your solution as long as it's halfway reasonable.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d&#39;Itri &lt;md@linux.it&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#8927</code>; Package <code>update-inetd</code>.


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