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=09I have some machines that have /home mounted by NFS, and sometimes
they get rebooted (both server and clients) ath the same time (maybe
electric failure, although its not too common). The problem is since
server has higher load than clients, clients startup the nfs mount script
before the server has launched any daemon (a race condition).
=09I do not want the clients to boot if this happens, so I have
fiddled around with the /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh script, and added some
nice things (I hope I have done it right, at least it seems it works) to
handle "persistent" behavior.
=09I have attached the resulting script to this mail for your
consideration on including it in the scripts provided by your package
(possibly with the variable that affects this behavior set to 'no' but
thus allowing anyone to set it to yes if they are in dire need of it :)
=09Regards
=09Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pe=F1a
=09Debian developer
=09jfs@computer.org
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Bug#39026; Package sysvinit.
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Subject: Bug#39026: Allow persitent behavior when handling NFS mounting (fwd)
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From: Miquel van Smoorenburg
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According to Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a:
> I have some machines that have /home mounted by NFS, and sometimes
> they get rebooted (both server and clients) ath the same time (maybe
> electric failure, although its not too common). The problem is since
> server has higher load than clients, clients startup the nfs mount script
> before the server has launched any daemon (a race condition).
> I do not want the clients to boot if this happens, so I have
> fiddled around with the /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh script, and added some
> nice things (I hope I have done it right, at least it seems it works) to
> handle "persistent" behavior.
> I have attached the resulting script to this mail for your
> consideration on including it in the scripts provided by your package
> (possibly with the variable that affects this behavior set to 'no' but
> thus allowing anyone to set it to yes if they are in dire need of it :)
I don't think this is an elegant solution. Why don't you just autofs,
_that_ is a very elegant solution. Hmm, I do understand that when
booting you need /usr immideately, and otherwise have to wait for it to
become available.
But mounting an NFS filesystem should never timeout - if it does,
then that's a bug in mount(8). Ofcourse you must not mount the
file system with the "soft" option - did you use that option?
If so, you probably meant "intr".
Read the manual page for nfs(5), and the autofs docs. You'll probably
agree that there are better ways to solve this, and then we can close
this bug ;)
Mike.
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According to Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a:
> I have some machines that have /home mounted by NFS, and sometimes
> they get rebooted (both server and clients) ath the same time (maybe
> electric failure, although its not too common). The problem is since
> server has higher load than clients, clients startup the nfs mount script
> before the server has launched any daemon (a race condition).
> I do not want the clients to boot if this happens, so I have
> fiddled around with the /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh script, and added some
> nice things (I hope I have done it right, at least it seems it works) to
> handle "persistent" behavior.
> I have attached the resulting script to this mail for your
> consideration on including it in the scripts provided by your package
> (possibly with the variable that affects this behavior set to 'no' but
> thus allowing anyone to set it to yes if they are in dire need of it :)
I don't think this is an elegant solution. Why don't you just autofs,
_that_ is a very elegant solution. Hmm, I do understand that when
booting you need /usr immideately, and otherwise have to wait for it to
become available.
But mounting an NFS filesystem should never timeout - if it does,
then that's a bug in mount(8). Ofcourse you must not mount the
file system with the "soft" option - did you use that option?
If so, you probably meant "intr".
Read the manual page for nfs(5), and the autofs docs. You'll probably
agree that there are better ways to solve this, and then we can close
this bug ;)
Mike.
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> I don't think this is an elegant solution. Why don't you just autofs,
> _that_ is a very elegant solution. Hmm, I do understand that when
> booting you need /usr immideately, and otherwise have to wait for it to
> become available.
I do not want the clients to boot (unless manually controlled)
without their homes mounted, and it might happen that when they try to use
autofs the remote server is not UP so they cannot work.
>
> But mounting an NFS filesystem should never timeout - if it does,
> then that's a bug in mount(8). Ofcourse you must not mount the
> file system with the "soft" option - did you use that option?
> If so, you probably meant "intr".
Mounting does not. As a matter of fact it is a race condition, if
the RPC call is made to the server's kernel when the RPC is up but mount
is not yet registered then it will yell "RPC program not registered" and
will not mount it.
Some other times it might do the call when the server has both RPC
and mountd running, so the mount goes ok. If the RPC on the server is not
working it will not timeout, so, you see, it does not happen always, but
it does happen.
>
> Read the manual page for nfs(5), and the autofs docs. You'll probably
> agree that there are better ways to solve this, and then we can close
> this bug ;)
Ummm. I have read the nfs man page, and still don't see it clear.
Autofs does still not solve it, since I want clients to have /home (but it
could be /usr) mounted *before* giving a prompt. I do not see other ways
to fix it (maybe a right fstab entry, but the problem is not with a
*mounted* fs, but when it tries to mount one that is neither available
neither not available, but something in between)... I think it's not that
bad to add those lines and have the default stay as is (but thus allowing
any other wanting the same things, having the same problem, to find a fix
quickly enough)
>
> Mike.
> --
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>
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Javi
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Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl>.
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> I don't think this is an elegant solution. Why don't you just autofs,
> _that_ is a very elegant solution. Hmm, I do understand that when
> booting you need /usr immideately, and otherwise have to wait for it to
> become available.
I do not want the clients to boot (unless manually controlled)
without their homes mounted, and it might happen that when they try to use
autofs the remote server is not UP so they cannot work.
>
> But mounting an NFS filesystem should never timeout - if it does,
> then that's a bug in mount(8). Ofcourse you must not mount the
> file system with the "soft" option - did you use that option?
> If so, you probably meant "intr".
Mounting does not. As a matter of fact it is a race condition, if
the RPC call is made to the server's kernel when the RPC is up but mount
is not yet registered then it will yell "RPC program not registered" and
will not mount it.
Some other times it might do the call when the server has both RPC
and mountd running, so the mount goes ok. If the RPC on the server is not
working it will not timeout, so, you see, it does not happen always, but
it does happen.
>
> Read the manual page for nfs(5), and the autofs docs. You'll probably
> agree that there are better ways to solve this, and then we can close
> this bug ;)
Ummm. I have read the nfs man page, and still don't see it clear.
Autofs does still not solve it, since I want clients to have /home (but it
could be /usr) mounted *before* giving a prompt. I do not see other ways
to fix it (maybe a right fstab entry, but the problem is not with a
*mounted* fs, but when it tries to mount one that is neither available
neither not available, but something in between)... I think it's not that
bad to add those lines and have the default stay as is (but thus allowing
any other wanting the same things, having the same problem, to find a fix
quickly enough)
>
> Mike.
> --
> Indifference will certainly be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
>
Regards
Javi
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These two bug reports are about the same issue, and seem to be exact
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