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The following was a message discussing a problem with automake and
autoheader.  Could you apply the fix recomended to acconfig.h in autoconf?

--=20
Scott K. Ellis <storm@gate.net>                 http://www.gate.net/~storm/

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To: Kevin Dalley <kevin@rahul.net>
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Subject: Re: automake: Automake's macros cause autoheader to die

Kevin Dalley <kevin@rahul.net> writes:

> The following bug has been reported to the Debian release of
> automake-1.2.  Please keep the "cc" headers for bug tracking.

> When running autoheader on a configure.in that includes some automake
> macros, autoheader complains about symbols [PACKAGE and VERSION] it
> can't deal with.  It then fails to generate an output file.

The symbols have to be preannounced in `acconfig.h', like this:


/* Define to the name of the distribution.  */
#undef PACKAGE

/* Define to the version of the distribution.  */
#undef VERSION


This is documented in the Autoconf manual, but it might be a good idea
that the Automake manual also insists a bit about adding such lines to
`acconfig.h'.

> I'm not sure if this is a bug with autoconf or automake, but
> autoconf/autoheader works fine without it.

I do not think it should be considered as a bug, except maybe against
the Automake documentation.

`autoconf'/`autoheader' behaviour does not restrict what `automake'
could do or need: these are different packages, even if good friends.
So, I do not understand the argument, if any.

--=20
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The following was a message discussing a problem with automake and
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--=20
Scott K. Ellis <storm@gate.net>                 http://www.gate.net/~storm/

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Subject: Re: automake: Automake's macros cause autoheader to die

Kevin Dalley <kevin@rahul.net> writes:

> The following bug has been reported to the Debian release of
> automake-1.2.  Please keep the "cc" headers for bug tracking.

> When running autoheader on a configure.in that includes some automake
> macros, autoheader complains about symbols [PACKAGE and VERSION] it
> can't deal with.  It then fails to generate an output file.

The symbols have to be preannounced in `acconfig.h', like this:


/* Define to the name of the distribution.  */
#undef PACKAGE

/* Define to the version of the distribution.  */
#undef VERSION


This is documented in the Autoconf manual, but it might be a good idea
that the Automake manual also insists a bit about adding such lines to
`acconfig.h'.

> I'm not sure if this is a bug with autoconf or automake, but
> autoconf/autoheader works fine without it.

I do not think it should be considered as a bug, except maybe against
the Automake documentation.

`autoconf'/`autoheader' behaviour does not restrict what `automake'
could do or need: these are different packages, even if good friends.
So, I do not understand the argument, if any.

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I don't see why this patch should be applied against the wishes of the
upstream GNU maintainers.  Any objections against closing the bug?
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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBen Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu>

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On 6 Dec 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:

> I don't see why this patch should be applied against the wishes of the
> upstream GNU maintainers.  Any objections against closing the bug?

The comment about it not being a bug was related to a bug filed on
automake, not autoconf.  The solution suggested (adding the definitions to
acconfig.h in autoconf) was to fix a conflict between the 
AM_CONFIG_AUTOMAKE macro in automake and autoheader (from autoconf).  For
more details, please consult the records for bug #14112.

Yes, this is to be considerd an objection.





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On 6 Dec 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:

> I don't see why this patch should be applied against the wishes of the
> upstream GNU maintainers.  Any objections against closing the bug?

The comment about it not being a bug was related to a bug filed on
automake, not autoconf.  The solution suggested (adding the definitions to
acconfig.h in autoconf) was to fix a conflict between the 
AM_CONFIG_AUTOMAKE macro in automake and autoheader (from autoconf).  For
more details, please consult the records for bug #14112.

Yes, this is to be considerd an objection.





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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBen Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu>

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"Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> On 6 Dec 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> 
> > I don't see why this patch should be applied against the wishes of the
> > upstream GNU maintainers.  Any objections against closing the bug?
> 
> The comment about it not being a bug was related to a bug filed on
> automake, not autoconf.  The solution suggested (adding the definitions to
> acconfig.h in autoconf) was to fix a conflict between the 
> AM_CONFIG_AUTOMAKE macro in automake and autoheader (from autoconf).  For
> more details, please consult the records for bug #14112.
> 
> Yes, this is to be considerd an objection.

Very well, I suppose I'll have to actually take action on this then.
I've added PACKAGE and VERSION to autoconf's acconfig.h, even though I
didn't want to.  See version 2.12-4.

Note that this will make programs written assuming Debian's autoconf
and automake break when someone runs standard FSF autoconf on them.
-- 
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"Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> On 6 Dec 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> 
> > I don't see why this patch should be applied against the wishes of the
> > upstream GNU maintainers.  Any objections against closing the bug?
> 
> The comment about it not being a bug was related to a bug filed on
> automake, not autoconf.  The solution suggested (adding the definitions to
> acconfig.h in autoconf) was to fix a conflict between the 
> AM_CONFIG_AUTOMAKE macro in automake and autoheader (from autoconf).  For
> more details, please consult the records for bug #14112.
> 
> Yes, this is to be considerd an objection.

Very well, I suppose I'll have to actually take action on this then.
I've added PACKAGE and VERSION to autoconf's acconfig.h, even though I
didn't want to.  See version 2.12-4.

Note that this will make programs written assuming Debian's autoconf
and automake break when someone runs standard FSF autoconf on them.
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Please don't do this unless you want to encourage the FSF to make a
new release of autoconf.  I don't think that our autoconf should
conflict with the upstream release.  My preference is to leave it as a
forwarded bug.  Note that this bug originally started as #14112
against automake, and is marked as forwarded.  You may want to read
the discussion there as well.

Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:

> Very well, I suppose I'll have to actually take action on this then.
> I've added PACKAGE and VERSION to autoconf's acconfig.h, even though I
> didn't want to.  See version 2.12-4.
> 
> Note that this will make programs written assuming Debian's autoconf
> and automake break when someone runs standard FSF autoconf on them.


-- 
Kevin Dalley
kevind@rahul.net



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Please don't do this unless you want to encourage the FSF to make a
new release of autoconf.  I don't think that our autoconf should
conflict with the upstream release.  My preference is to leave it as a
forwarded bug.  Note that this bug originally started as #14112
against automake, and is marked as forwarded.  You may want to read
the discussion there as well.

Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:

> Very well, I suppose I'll have to actually take action on this then.
> I've added PACKAGE and VERSION to autoconf's acconfig.h, even though I
> didn't want to.  See version 2.12-4.
> 
> Note that this will make programs written assuming Debian's autoconf
> and automake break when someone runs standard FSF autoconf on them.


-- 
Kevin Dalley
kevind@rahul.net



<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Ben Pfaff &lt;pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#15626</code>; Package <code>autoconf</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBen Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu>

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Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
simply make it a conffile.

On 6 Dec 1997, Kevin Dalley wrote:

> Please don't do this unless you want to encourage the FSF to make a
> new release of autoconf.  I don't think that our autoconf should
> conflict with the upstream release.  My preference is to leave it as a
> forwarded bug.  Note that this bug originally started as #14112
> against automake, and is marked as forwarded.  You may want to read
> the discussion there as well.
> 
> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:
> 
> > Very well, I suppose I'll have to actually take action on this then.
> > I've added PACKAGE and VERSION to autoconf's acconfig.h, even though I
> > didn't want to.  See version 2.12-4.
> > 
> > Note that this will make programs written assuming Debian's autoconf
> > and automake break when someone runs standard FSF autoconf on them.




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-t

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Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
simply make it a conffile.

On 6 Dec 1997, Kevin Dalley wrote:

> Please don't do this unless you want to encourage the FSF to make a
> new release of autoconf.  I don't think that our autoconf should
> conflict with the upstream release.  My preference is to leave it as a
> forwarded bug.  Note that this bug originally started as #14112
> against automake, and is marked as forwarded.  You may want to read
> the discussion there as well.
> 
> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:
> 
> > Very well, I suppose I'll have to actually take action on this then.
> > I've added PACKAGE and VERSION to autoconf's acconfig.h, even though I
> > didn't want to.  See version 2.12-4.
> > 
> > Note that this will make programs written assuming Debian's autoconf
> > and automake break when someone runs standard FSF autoconf on them.




<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Ben Pfaff &lt;pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#15626</code>; Package <code>autoconf</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBen Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu>

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"Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
> current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
> the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
> software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
> point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
> simply make it a conffile.

Done.
-- 
Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> <blp@gnu.org> <pfaffben@debian.org>



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"Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
> current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
> the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
> software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
> point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
> simply make it a conffile.

Done.
-- 
Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> <blp@gnu.org> <pfaffben@debian.org>



<strong>Information forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Ben Pfaff &lt;pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu&gt;</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#15626</code>; Package <code>autoconf</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBen Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu>

Subject: Bug#15626: automake and autoheader
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In the meantime, I would like to keep this bug as forwarded, rather
than fixed.  This will keep our documentation around.  Perhaps it
should be merged with bug #14112: Automake's macros cause autoheader
to die.  Clearly, they are the same bug reported twice.


Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:

> "Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> > Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
> > current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
> > the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
> > software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
> > point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
> > simply make it a conffile.
> 
> Done.
> -- 
> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> <blp@gnu.org> <pfaffben@debian.org>
> 
> 


-- 
Kevin Dalley
kevind@rahul.net



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In the meantime, I would like to keep this bug as forwarded, rather
than fixed.  This will keep our documentation around.  Perhaps it
should be merged with bug #14112: Automake's macros cause autoheader
to die.  Clearly, they are the same bug reported twice.


Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:

> "Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> > Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
> > current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
> > the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
> > software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
> > point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
> > simply make it a conffile.
> 
> Done.
> -- 
> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> <blp@gnu.org> <pfaffben@debian.org>
> 
> 


-- 
Kevin Dalley
kevind@rahul.net



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The following was a message discussing a problem with automake and
autoheader.  Could you apply the fix recomended to acconfig.h in autoconf?

--=20
Scott K. Ellis <storm@gate.net>                 http://www.gate.net/~storm/

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Date: 04 Dec 1997 11:16:46 -0500
From: Fran=E7ois Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Kevin Dalley <kevin@rahul.net>
Cc: automake@gnu.org, storm@gate.net, 14112-forwarded@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: automake: Automake's macros cause autoheader to die

Kevin Dalley <kevin@rahul.net> writes:

> The following bug has been reported to the Debian release of
> automake-1.2.  Please keep the "cc" headers for bug tracking.

> When running autoheader on a configure.in that includes some automake
> macros, autoheader complains about symbols [PACKAGE and VERSION] it
> can't deal with.  It then fails to generate an output file.

The symbols have to be preannounced in `acconfig.h', like this:


/* Define to the name of the distribution.  */
#undef PACKAGE

/* Define to the version of the distribution.  */
#undef VERSION


This is documented in the Autoconf manual, but it might be a good idea
that the Automake manual also insists a bit about adding such lines to
`acconfig.h'.

> I'm not sure if this is a bug with autoconf or automake, but
> autoconf/autoheader works fine without it.

I do not think it should be considered as a bug, except maybe against
the Automake documentation.

`autoconf'/`autoheader' behaviour does not restrict what `automake'
could do or need: these are different packages, even if good friends.
So, I do not understand the argument, if any.

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They are, but since you can't merge bugs from different packages, they
probably should be seperate bugs.  The optimum solution may be for
autoheader to check a local acconfig.h as well as its normal one and for
automake to generate said local file.

On 7 Dec 1997, Kevin Dalley wrote:

> In the meantime, I would like to keep this bug as forwarded, rather
> than fixed.  This will keep our documentation around.  Perhaps it
> should be merged with bug #14112: Automake's macros cause autoheader
> to die.  Clearly, they are the same bug reported twice.
> 
> 
> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:
> 
> > "Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> > > Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
> > > current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
> > > the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
> > > software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
> > > point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
> > > simply make it a conffile.
> > 
> > Done.
> > -- 
> > Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> <blp@gnu.org> <pfaffben@debian.org>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Dalley
> kevind@rahul.net
> 




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They are, but since you can't merge bugs from different packages, they
probably should be seperate bugs.  The optimum solution may be for
autoheader to check a local acconfig.h as well as its normal one and for
automake to generate said local file.

On 7 Dec 1997, Kevin Dalley wrote:

> In the meantime, I would like to keep this bug as forwarded, rather
> than fixed.  This will keep our documentation around.  Perhaps it
> should be merged with bug #14112: Automake's macros cause autoheader
> to die.  Clearly, they are the same bug reported twice.
> 
> 
> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes:
> 
> > "Scott K. Ellis" <storm@gate.net> writes:
> > > Well, I'd personally want to encourage the FSF to upgrade autoconf, as the
> > > current behavior of autoconf with automake is broken.  However, I've "seen
> > > the light" w/ regard to not adding imcompatibility with upstream in a
> > > software generation tool and would be willing to consider this a moot
> > > point if you'd want to change acconfig.h back to its original state and
> > > simply make it a conffile.
> > 
> > Done.
> > -- 
> > Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> <blp@gnu.org> <pfaffben@debian.org>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Dalley
> kevind@rahul.net
> 




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>>>>> "Scott" == Scott K Ellis <storm@gate.net> writes:

> They are, but since you can't merge bugs from different packages,
> they probably should be seperate bugs.  The optimum solution may be
> for autoheader to check a local acconfig.h as well as its normal one
> and for automake to generate said local file.

It's easy enough to reassign a bug and then merge.

If you have a specific suggestion for an automake change, could you
respond to one of the earlier messages for that bug which is forwarded 
to the automake mailing list.  Since automake is being actively
maintained, continuing the discussion there would be a good thing.

-- 
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kevind@rahul.net



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>>>>> "Scott" == Scott K Ellis <storm@gate.net> writes:

> They are, but since you can't merge bugs from different packages,
> they probably should be seperate bugs.  The optimum solution may be
> for autoheader to check a local acconfig.h as well as its normal one
> and for automake to generate said local file.

It's easy enough to reassign a bug and then merge.

If you have a specific suggestion for an automake change, could you
respond to one of the earlier messages for that bug which is forwarded 
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maintained, continuing the discussion there would be a good thing.

-- 
Kevin Dalley
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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgBen Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu>

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On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Kevin Dalley wrote:

> >>>>> "Scott" == Scott K Ellis <storm@gate.net> writes:
> 
> > They are, but since you can't merge bugs from different packages,
> > they probably should be seperate bugs.  The optimum solution may be
> > for autoheader to check a local acconfig.h as well as its normal one
> > and for automake to generate said local file.
> 
> It's easy enough to reassign a bug and then merge.
> 
> If you have a specific suggestion for an automake change, could you
> respond to one of the earlier messages for that bug which is forwarded 
> to the automake mailing list.  Since automake is being actively
> maintained, continuing the discussion there would be a good thing.

Unfortunatly, I don't really have a useful fix for automake that doesn't
involve changes to autoconf as well.  I'm not good enough with M4 to
suggest a better solution at this point.




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On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Kevin Dalley wrote:

> >>>>> "Scott" == Scott K Ellis <storm@gate.net> writes:
> 
> > They are, but since you can't merge bugs from different packages,
> > they probably should be seperate bugs.  The optimum solution may be
> > for autoheader to check a local acconfig.h as well as its normal one
> > and for automake to generate said local file.
> 
> It's easy enough to reassign a bug and then merge.
> 
> If you have a specific suggestion for an automake change, could you
> respond to one of the earlier messages for that bug which is forwarded 
> to the automake mailing list.  Since automake is being actively
> maintained, continuing the discussion there would be a good thing.

Unfortunatly, I don't really have a useful fix for automake that doesn't
involve changes to autoconf as well.  I'm not good enough with M4 to
suggest a better solution at this point.




<strong>Bug reassigned from package `autoconf' to `autoconf2.13'.</strong>
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# autoconf shouldn't break much anymore
close 98606 

# should be fixed by newest autoconf updates
close 98576
close 98986
close 98971

# ftp.debian.org has a bug report requesting removal
# of autoconf in project/experimental
close 80619

# the INSTALL file is there for people to use in their own packages
close 84048

# should be fixed upstream now
close 49829

# for some reason listed as `NMU fixed' bugs
close 75272
close 75448
close 84170
close 31227

# these apply to autoconf2.13 now
reassign 7314 autoconf2.13
reassign 9063 autoconf2.13
reassign 10648 autoconf2.13
reassign 15626 autoconf2.13
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thanks

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From: "addison sorel" <vezzani@fis.unipr.it>
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Subject: Job Opportunity at Luksus
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:45:35 +0000
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We have reviewed your resume and would like to introduce you to our 
current vacancy.
Luksus, with headquarters in Helsinki, Finland, serves the luxury 
lifestyle and offers unparalleled access to the finest luxury 
goods. We offer a unique mix of brands, partnerships, and product 
expertise. We are currently hiring, work at home positions, to 
provide administrative assistance with sales in North America.
Candidates for the job should possess excellent organizational 
skills as well as the ability to efficiently multi-task. Ideal 
candidates have a strong focus on day-to-day operational 
excellence. The candidate should be motivated, proactive, be able 
to learn and adapt quickly.

Other duties include, but are not limited to:

* Incorporating effective priorities for the virtual office function
* Administer day-to-day financial responsibilities for clients
* Reporting online daily
* Preparing brief summary reports, and weekly financial reports

Salary part-time (3 hours per day, Monday-Friday): $1,200/month, 
plus commission.

If you are interested in this position please send us an email to 
Sandra.Collins@luksus-jobs.org expressing your interest and we will 
forward you the detailed job description and the working agreement.

Thank You,
Luksus Team