Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@debian.org>:
Bug#65925; Package dpkg.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgWichert Akkerman  Subject: Bug#65925: dpkg: should have a "Suggests-Remove" and "Recommands-Remove" headers in packages Reply-To: "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" , 65925@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" Orignal-Sender: Dwayne Litzenberger Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Wichert Akkerman Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:33:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 65925 X-Debian-PR-Package: dpkg X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by bugs@bugs.debian.org id=B.96145734519405 (code B ref -1); Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:33:01 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:29:03 -0600 From: "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" To: Debian Bug Tracking System Message-ID: <20000619172903.A1269@dlitz.dyn.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Reportbug-Version: 0.57 Sender: Dwayne Litzenberger Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Package: dpkg Version: 1.6.13 Severity: wishlist =2Edeb packages should be about to specify "Suggests-Remove:" and "Recommends-Remove:" toward certain packages, that is, a package should be able to recommend you don't have a certain package installed. This would work opposite of "Suggests" and "Recommends", an optional "Conflicts". This could be used to allow DFSG-free packages to suggest you remove non-fr= ee packages, or to make a task-secure pseudo-package that recommends you remove all packages with security holes. -- System Information Debian Release: 2.2 Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux dlitz 2.2.16 #1 Tue Jun 13 07:04:39 CST 2000 i686 Versions of packages dpkg depends on: ii libc6 2.1.3-10 GNU C Library: Shared librarie= s an ii libncurses5 5.0-6 Shared libraries for terminal = hand ii libstdc++2.10 1:2.95.2-12 The GNU stdc++ library = =20 --=20 Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. "Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer." -- The Hacker HOWTO Dwayne C. Litzenberger - dlitz@cheerful.com See the mail headers for GPG/advertising/homepage information. --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjlOrL8ACgkQRFb7bLw5pLC66wCfVF9NzOe58xm2qPatg3FaD02t xD4Ani3M3Yy6ttRx9RfAPpIcXir89Gzf =vvkQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq--   Acknowledgement sent to "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" <dlitz@cheerful.com>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@debian.org>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" Subject: Bug#65925: Acknowledgement (dpkg: should have a "Suggests-Remove" and "Recommands-Remove" headers in packages) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000619172903.A1269@dlitz.dyn.dhs.org> References: <20000619172903.A1269@dlitz.dyn.dhs.org> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack 65925 Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Wichert Akkerman If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 65925@bugs.debian.org (and *not* to bugs@bugs.debian.org). Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 19 Jun 2000 23:29:05 +0000 From dwon@dlitz.adopedia.com Mon Jun 19 18:29:05 2000 Return-path: Received: from static24-72-34-179.reverse.accesscomm.ca (dlitz) [24.72.34.179] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 2 (Debian)) id 134AyX-00052c-00; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:29:05 -0500 Received: from dwon by dlitz with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 134AyV-0000LN-00; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:29:03 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:29:03 -0600 From: "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" To: Debian Bug Tracking System Subject: dpkg: should have a "Suggests-Remove" and "Recommands-Remove" headers in packages Message-ID: <20000619172903.A1269@dlitz.dyn.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Reportbug-Version: 0.57 Sender: Dwayne Litzenberger Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Package: dpkg Version: 1.6.13 Severity: wishlist =2Edeb packages should be about to specify "Suggests-Remove:" and "Recommends-Remove:" toward certain packages, that is, a package should be able to recommend you don't have a certain package installed. This would work opposite of "Suggests" and "Recommends", an optional "Conflicts". This could be used to allow DFSG-free packages to suggest you remove non-fr= ee packages, or to make a task-secure pseudo-package that recommends you remove all packages with security holes. -- System Information Debian Release: 2.2 Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux dlitz 2.2.16 #1 Tue Jun 13 07:04:39 CST 2000 i686 Versions of packages dpkg depends on: ii libc6 2.1.3-10 GNU C Library: Shared librarie= s an ii libncurses5 5.0-6 Shared libraries for terminal = hand ii libstdc++2.10 1:2.95.2-12 The GNU stdc++ library = =20 --=20 Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. "Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer." -- The Hacker HOWTO Dwayne C. Litzenberger - dlitz@cheerful.com See the mail headers for GPG/advertising/homepage information. --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjlOrL8ACgkQRFb7bLw5pLC66wCfVF9NzOe58xm2qPatg3FaD02t xD4Ani3M3Yy6ttRx9RfAPpIcXir89Gzf =vvkQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq--   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Dpkg Development <debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#65925; Package dpkg.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgDpkg Development  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#65925: Not going to happen Reply-To: Thomas Hood , 65925@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Thomas Hood Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Dpkg Development Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:48:08 UTC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 65925 X-Debian-PR-Package: dpkg X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 65925-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B65925.10875878647502 (code B ref 65925); Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:48:08 UTC Received: (at 65925) by bugs.debian.org; 18 Jun 2004 19:44:24 +0000 Received: from post-21.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BbPHk-0001wp-00; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:44:24 -0700 Received: from [82.161.38.140] (helo=localhost) by post-21.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1BbPHj-0003lF-00 for 65925@bugs.debian.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:44:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F1510DEA2 for <65925@bugs.debian.org>; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:41:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Hood To: 65925@bugs.debian.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:41:54 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 65925@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_10 autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: I can't see this suggestion being implemented. It isn't dpkg's role to implement the sorts of policies that are discussed here. Can this be closed? -- Thomas   Acknowledgement sent to Thomas Hood <jdthood@aglu.demon.nl>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Dpkg Development <debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org>.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Thomas Hood Subject: Bug#65925: Info received (was Not going to happen) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> References: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> Precedence: bulk X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 65925 X-Debian-PR-Package: dpkg X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the package maintainer(s) and to other interested parties to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Dpkg Development If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 65925@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 65925) by bugs.debian.org; 18 Jun 2004 19:44:24 +0000 From jdthood@aglu.demon.nl Fri Jun 18 12:44:24 2004 Return-path: Received: from post-21.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BbPHk-0001wp-00; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:44:24 -0700 Received: from [82.161.38.140] (helo=localhost) by post-21.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1BbPHj-0003lF-00 for 65925@bugs.debian.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:44:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F1510DEA2 for <65925@bugs.debian.org>; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:41:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Not going to happen From: Thomas Hood To: 65925@bugs.debian.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:41:54 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivered-To: 65925@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_10 autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: I can't see this suggestion being implemented. It isn't dpkg's role to implement the sorts of policies that are discussed here. Can this be closed? -- Thomas   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Dpkg Development <debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#65925; Package dpkg.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgDpkg Development  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#65925: Not going to happen Reply-To: Scott James Remnant , 65925@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Scott James Remnant Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Dpkg Development Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:03:07 UTC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 65925 X-Debian-PR-Package: dpkg X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 65925-submit@bugs.debian.org id=B65925.108767157516318 (code B ref 65925); Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:03:07 UTC Received: (at 65925) by bugs.debian.org; 19 Jun 2004 18:59:35 +0000 Received: from populous.netsplit.com (mailgate.netsplit.com) [62.49.129.34] (qmailr) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Bbl3u-0004F1-00; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:59:34 -0700 Received: (qmail 20550 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2004 18:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO descent.netsplit.com) (scott@62.49.129.40) by populous.netsplit.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 19 Jun 2004 18:59:31 -0000 From: Scott James Remnant To: Thomas Hood , 65925@bugs.debian.org In-Reply-To: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> References: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr" Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:59:31 +0100 Message-Id: <1087671571.2908.3.camel@descent.netsplit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.9.1 Delivered-To: 65925@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: --=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 21:41 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > I can't see this suggestion being implemented. It isn't dpkg's > role to implement the sorts of policies that are discussed here. > Can this be closed? >=20 *shrug* I've always liked the idea of a Replacement-For style header ... it's cute metadata for the frontends. It shouldn't be closed, it might be worth reassigning to policy with some better ideas. Scott --=20 Have you ever, ever felt like this? Had strange things happen? Are you going round the twist? --=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBA1I0TIexP3IStZ2wRArJ2AJ4jQ1eE82aigkJ7P3nnWO6PEsD7MACfUxhd fOY/8ktWPynH8iOsgL3zbmA= =iICz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr--   Acknowledgement sent to Scott James Remnant <scott@netsplit.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Dpkg Development <debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org>.   -t  X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Scott James Remnant Subject: Bug#65925: Info received (was Bug#65925: Not going to happen) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1087671571.2908.3.camel@descent.netsplit.com> References: <1087671571.2908.3.camel@descent.netsplit.com> Precedence: bulk X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info 65925 X-Debian-PR-Package: dpkg X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the package maintainer(s) and to other interested parties to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Dpkg Development If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 65925@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 65925) by bugs.debian.org; 19 Jun 2004 18:59:35 +0000 From scott@netsplit.com Sat Jun 19 11:59:34 2004 Return-path: Received: from populous.netsplit.com (mailgate.netsplit.com) [62.49.129.34] (qmailr) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Bbl3u-0004F1-00; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:59:34 -0700 Received: (qmail 20550 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2004 18:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO descent.netsplit.com) (scott@62.49.129.40) by populous.netsplit.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 19 Jun 2004 18:59:31 -0000 Subject: Re: Bug#65925: Not going to happen From: Scott James Remnant To: Thomas Hood , 65925@bugs.debian.org In-Reply-To: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> References: <1087587713.6750.1139.camel@thanatos> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr" Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:59:31 +0100 Message-Id: <1087671571.2908.3.camel@descent.netsplit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.9.1 Delivered-To: 65925@bugs.debian.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: --=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 21:41 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > I can't see this suggestion being implemented. It isn't dpkg's > role to implement the sorts of policies that are discussed here. > Can this be closed? >=20 *shrug* I've always liked the idea of a Replacement-For style header ... it's cute metadata for the frontends. It shouldn't be closed, it might be worth reassigning to policy with some better ideas. Scott --=20 Have you ever, ever felt like this? Had strange things happen? Are you going round the twist? --=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBA1I0TIexP3IStZ2wRArJ2AJ4jQ1eE82aigkJ7P3nnWO6PEsD7MACfUxhd fOY/8ktWPynH8iOsgL3zbmA= =iICz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-F4wwTSafkpXJCqIsc6Tr--