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Bug#61113; Package svgatextmode.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee)  Subject: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset Reply-To: Lazarus Long , 61113@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Lazarus Long Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee) Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:18:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 61113 X-Debian-PR-Package: svgatextmode X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by bugs@bugs.debian.org id=B.95404001530239 (code B ref -1); Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:18:01 GMT From: Lazarus Long To: submit@bugs.debian.org X-Mailer: bug 3.3.2 Message-Id: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Package: svgatextmode Version: 1.9-3 Severity: normal I've built three new potato systems for others here recently, and could not use svgatextmode with any of them. The first had an 8MB ATI Xpert98 card, using the (older) Rage Pro chipset. The second had a 16MB ATI Xpert128 card, using the Rage 128 chipset. The third had a 32MB ATI Xpert2000 card, also using the Rage 128 chipset. /etc/TextConfig does not seem to support any of these presently, and available tools such as SuperProbe have been of no assistance. Ironically, a couple of months ago, someone told me she would not switch to Debian because it did not support her Rage 128 card, although I believe she was speaking of X11 at that point. Recent experience has shown me just how significant that deficit in support can be. Where to turn now? -- System Information Debian Release: woody Kernel Version: Linux phoenix 2.2.14 #1 Sun Mar 12 19:19:34 UTC 2000 i586 unknown Versions of the packages svgatextmode depends on: ii libc6 2.1.3-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data   Acknowledgement sent to Lazarus Long <lazarus@overdue.dhis.net>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee).   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Lazarus Long Subject: Bug#61113: Acknowledgement (svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net> References: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack 61113 Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee) If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 61113@bugs.debian.org (and *not* to bugs@bugs.debian.org). Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 26 Mar 2000 03:06:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 30237 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2000 03:06:53 -0000 Received: from 209-130-219-25.nas1.roc.gblx.net (HELO phoenix.overdue.net) (@209.130.219.25) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 26 Mar 2000 03:06:53 -0000 Received: by phoenix.overdue.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8AD703082C; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:06:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Lazarus Long Subject: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset To: submit@bugs.debian.org X-Mailer: bug 3.3.2 Message-Id: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Package: svgatextmode Version: 1.9-3 Severity: normal I've built three new potato systems for others here recently, and could not use svgatextmode with any of them. The first had an 8MB ATI Xpert98 card, using the (older) Rage Pro chipset. The second had a 16MB ATI Xpert128 card, using the Rage 128 chipset. The third had a 32MB ATI Xpert2000 card, also using the Rage 128 chipset. /etc/TextConfig does not seem to support any of these presently, and available tools such as SuperProbe have been of no assistance. Ironically, a couple of months ago, someone told me she would not switch to Debian because it did not support her Rage 128 card, although I believe she was speaking of X11 at that point. Recent experience has shown me just how significant that deficit in support can be. Where to turn now? -- System Information Debian Release: woody Kernel Version: Linux phoenix 2.2.14 #1 Sun Mar 12 19:19:34 UTC 2000 i586 unknown Versions of the packages svgatextmode depends on: ii libc6 2.1.3-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee):
Bug#61113; Package svgatextmode.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee)  Subject: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset Reply-To: ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron), 61113@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron) Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee) Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:04:56 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 61113 X-Debian-PR-Package: svgatextmode X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 61113-bugs@bugs.debian.org id=B61113.9541723895835 (code B ref 61113); Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:04:56 GMT From: ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:02:02 +0930 To: Lazarus Long , 61113@bugs.debian.org Cc: control@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <20000326210202.H346@od.ronland.oz> References: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.5i In-Reply-To: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net>; from lazarus@overdue.dhis.net on Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000 severity 61113 wishlist thanks Hi, SVGATextMode is no longer supported upstream (the original author has been referring anyone with patches etc to us for at least as long as I've been maintaining it) If you can supply a patch for this hardware I'll gladly apply it, other than that there is not really much I can do. (unless people want to donate me hardware to work on it ;-) sorry, Ron On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000, Lazarus Long wrote: > Package: svgatextmode > Version: 1.9-3 > Severity: normal > > I've built three new potato systems for others here recently, and could > not use svgatextmode with any of them. > > The first had an 8MB ATI Xpert98 card, using the (older) Rage Pro chipset. > > The second had a 16MB ATI Xpert128 card, using the Rage 128 chipset. > > The third had a 32MB ATI Xpert2000 card, also using the Rage 128 chipset. > > /etc/TextConfig does not seem to support any of these presently, and > available tools such as SuperProbe have been of no assistance. > > Ironically, a couple of months ago, someone told me she would not switch > to Debian because it did not support her Rage 128 card, although I > believe she was speaking of X11 at that point. Recent experience has > shown me just how significant that deficit in support can be. > > Where to turn now? >   Acknowledgement sent to ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee).   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron) Subject: Bug#61113: Info received (was Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000326210202.H346@od.ronland.oz> References: <20000326210202.H346@od.ronland.oz> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info-maintonly 61113 Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee) If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 61113@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 61113) by bugs.debian.org; 27 Mar 2000 15:53:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 5823 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2000 15:53:06 -0000 Received: from ppp91.microtronics.com.au (HELO ronland.oz) (0@203.30.55.91) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 27 Mar 2000 15:53:06 -0000 Received: by microtronics.com.au via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for 61113@bugs.debian.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:02:02 +0930 (CST) From: ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:02:02 +0930 To: Lazarus Long , 61113@bugs.debian.org Cc: control@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset Message-ID: <20000326210202.H346@od.ronland.oz> References: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.5i In-Reply-To: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net>; from lazarus@overdue.dhis.net on Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000 severity 61113 wishlist thanks Hi, SVGATextMode is no longer supported upstream (the original author has been referring anyone with patches etc to us for at least as long as I've been maintaining it) If you can supply a patch for this hardware I'll gladly apply it, other than that there is not really much I can do. (unless people want to donate me hardware to work on it ;-) sorry, Ron On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000, Lazarus Long wrote: > Package: svgatextmode > Version: 1.9-3 > Severity: normal > > I've built three new potato systems for others here recently, and could > not use svgatextmode with any of them. > > The first had an 8MB ATI Xpert98 card, using the (older) Rage Pro chipset. > > The second had a 16MB ATI Xpert128 card, using the Rage 128 chipset. > > The third had a 32MB ATI Xpert2000 card, also using the Rage 128 chipset. > > /etc/TextConfig does not seem to support any of these presently, and > available tools such as SuperProbe have been of no assistance. > > Ironically, a couple of months ago, someone told me she would not switch > to Debian because it did not support her Rage 128 card, although I > believe she was speaking of X11 at that point. Recent experience has > shown me just how significant that deficit in support can be. > > Where to turn now? >   Severity set to `wishlist'. Request was from ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron) to control@bugs.debian.org.   Received: (at control) by bugs.debian.org; 27 Mar 2000 15:53:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 5823 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2000 15:53:06 -0000 Received: from ppp91.microtronics.com.au (HELO ronland.oz) (0@203.30.55.91) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 27 Mar 2000 15:53:06 -0000 Received: by microtronics.com.au via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for 61113@bugs.debian.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:02:02 +0930 (CST) From: ron@microtronics.com.au (Ron) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:02:02 +0930 To: Lazarus Long , 61113@bugs.debian.org Cc: control@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset Message-ID: <20000326210202.H346@od.ronland.oz> References: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.5i In-Reply-To: <20000326030643.8AD703082C@phoenix.overdue.net>; from lazarus@overdue.dhis.net on Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000 severity 61113 wishlist thanks Hi, SVGATextMode is no longer supported upstream (the original author has been referring anyone with patches etc to us for at least as long as I've been maintaining it) If you can supply a patch for this hardware I'll gladly apply it, other than that there is not really much I can do. (unless people want to donate me hardware to work on it ;-) sorry, Ron On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000, Lazarus Long wrote: > Package: svgatextmode > Version: 1.9-3 > Severity: normal > > I've built three new potato systems for others here recently, and could > not use svgatextmode with any of them. > > The first had an 8MB ATI Xpert98 card, using the (older) Rage Pro chipset. > > The second had a 16MB ATI Xpert128 card, using the Rage 128 chipset. > > The third had a 32MB ATI Xpert2000 card, also using the Rage 128 chipset. > > /etc/TextConfig does not seem to support any of these presently, and > available tools such as SuperProbe have been of no assistance. > > Ironically, a couple of months ago, someone told me she would not switch > to Debian because it did not support her Rage 128 card, although I > believe she was speaking of X11 at that point. Recent experience has > shown me just how significant that deficit in support can be. > > Where to turn now? >   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee):
Bug#61113; Package svgatextmode.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee)  Subject: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset Reply-To: , 61113@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: "Adam Conrad" Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee) Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:18:03 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 61113 X-Debian-PR-Package: svgatextmode X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 61113-bugs@bugs.debian.org id=B61113.95419901818087 (code B ref 61113); Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:18:03 GMT From: "Adam Conrad" To: "'Ron'" , "'Lazarus Long'" Cc: <61113@bugs.debian.org> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:15:21 -0700 Message-ID: <004e01bf9842$53ab4520$0300000a@0c3.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000326210202.H346@od.ronland.oz> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Ron, Lazarus, SVGATextMode is pretty much a dead product, as far as new development goes. In talks with Koen Gadeyne (the upstream developer) about a year and a half ago, he was of the opinion that the vesafb device (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/*) in the 2.2.x kernels would eliminate the need for STM supporting every new card that came out. He was pretty much right. I've been using the vesafb device on laptops and some desktops flawlessly now, for over a year, and never have had a complaint. If you have a newer vidcard that STM won't/can't use, try using the vesafb device... I *THINK* it may even be compiled in the default Debian kernels (although I don't use them, so don't quote me on that...) -Adam Conrad -----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:ron@microtronics.com.au] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 4:32 AM To: Lazarus Long; 61113@bugs.debian.org Cc: control@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset severity 61113 wishlist thanks Hi, SVGATextMode is no longer supported upstream (the original author has been referring anyone with patches etc to us for at least as long as I've been maintaining it) If you can supply a patch for this hardware I'll gladly apply it, other than that there is not really much I can do. (unless people want to donate me hardware to work on it ;-) sorry, Ron On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000, Lazarus Long wrote: > Package: svgatextmode > Version: 1.9-3 > Severity: normal > > I've built three new potato systems for others here recently, and could > not use svgatextmode with any of them. > > The first had an 8MB ATI Xpert98 card, using the (older) Rage Pro chipset. > > The second had a 16MB ATI Xpert128 card, using the Rage 128 chipset. > > The third had a 32MB ATI Xpert2000 card, also using the Rage 128 chipset. > > /etc/TextConfig does not seem to support any of these presently, and > available tools such as SuperProbe have been of no assistance. > > Ironically, a couple of months ago, someone told me she would not switch > to Debian because it did not support her Rage 128 card, although I > believe she was speaking of X11 at that point. Recent experience has > shown me just how significant that deficit in support can be. > > Where to turn now? > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org   Acknowledgement sent to <adconrad@0c3.net>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee).   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Subject: Bug#61113: Info received (was Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004e01bf9842$53ab4520$0300000a@0c3.net> References: <004e01bf9842$53ab4520$0300000a@0c3.net> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info-maintonly 61113 Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers mailing list to accompany the original report. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): ron@debian.org (Ron C. Lee) If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 61113@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at 61113) by bugs.debian.org; 27 Mar 2000 23:16:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 18076 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2000 23:16:58 -0000 Received: from 24.64.24.141.ab.wave.home.com (HELO frankenstein.0c3.net) (mail@24.64.24.141) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 27 Mar 2000 23:16:57 -0000 Received: from cthulhu.0c3.net ([10.0.0.3] helo=cthulhu) by frankenstein.0c3.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12ZijE-00040q-00; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:15:24 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Adam Conrad" To: "'Ron'" , "'Lazarus Long'" Cc: <61113@bugs.debian.org> Subject: RE: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:15:21 -0700 Message-ID: <004e01bf9842$53ab4520$0300000a@0c3.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000326210202.H346@od.ronland.oz> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Ron, Lazarus, SVGATextMode is pretty much a dead product, as far as new development goes. In talks with Koen Gadeyne (the upstream developer) about a year and a half ago, he was of the opinion that the vesafb device (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/*) in the 2.2.x kernels would eliminate the need for STM supporting every new card that came out. He was pretty much right. I've been using the vesafb device on laptops and some desktops flawlessly now, for over a year, and never have had a complaint. If you have a newer vidcard that STM won't/can't use, try using the vesafb device... I *THINK* it may even be compiled in the default Debian kernels (although I don't use them, so don't quote me on that...) -Adam Conrad -----Original Message----- From: Ron [mailto:ron@microtronics.com.au] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 4:32 AM To: Lazarus Long; 61113@bugs.debian.org Cc: control@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#61113: svgatextmode: lack of support for ATI Rage 128 chipset severity 61113 wishlist thanks Hi, SVGATextMode is no longer supported upstream (the original author has been referring anyone with patches etc to us for at least as long as I've been maintaining it) If you can supply a patch for this hardware I'll gladly apply it, other than that there is not really much I can do. (unless people want to donate me hardware to work on it ;-) sorry, Ron On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 03:06:43AM +0000, Lazarus Long wrote: > Package: svgatextmode > Version: 1.9-3 > Severity: normal > > I've built three new potato systems for others here recently, and could > not use svgatextmode with any of them. > > The first had an 8MB ATI Xpert98 card, using the (older) Rage Pro chipset. > > The second had a 16MB ATI Xpert128 card, using the Rage 128 chipset. > > The third had a 32MB ATI Xpert2000 card, also using the Rage 128 chipset. > > /etc/TextConfig does not seem to support any of these presently, and > available tools such as SuperProbe have been of no assistance. > > Ironically, a couple of months ago, someone told me she would not switch > to Debian because it did not support her Rage 128 card, although I > believe she was speaking of X11 at that point. Recent experience has > shown me just how significant that deficit in support can be. > > Where to turn now? > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org