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Subject: Bug#61210: useradd, userdel, etc. could have plugins for various name services (e.g. LDAP, Kerberos)
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Package: passwd
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I think it would be very cool if the useradd, userdel, and related
commands (adduser would probably have to be modified, but then, maybe
not) simply used plug-ins for various name services (as glibc calls
them; a.k.a., password databases) that can be used instead of the
traditional Unix flat-file mechanism, such as LDAP, NIS(+), Kerberos, and
the like. (though I'm asking for LDAP, because it owns the others ;)

Regards,

Alex.

-- System Information
Debian Release: woody
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux cornerstone 2.2.14 #1 Wed Feb 23 03:03:04 PST 2000 i686

Versions of packages passwd depends on:
ii  libc6                        2.1.3-7     GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libpam-modules               0.72-6      Pluggable Authentication Modules f
ii  libpam0g                     0.72-6      Pluggable Authentication Modules l
ii  login                        19990827-18 System login tools                

-- Configuration Files:
/etc/pam.d/chfn changed [not included]
/etc/pam.d/chsh changed [not included]
/etc/pam.d/passwd changed [not included]




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Package: passwd
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I think it would be very cool if the useradd, userdel, and related
commands (adduser would probably have to be modified, but then, maybe
not) simply used plug-ins for various name services (as glibc calls
them; a.k.a., password databases) that can be used instead of the
traditional Unix flat-file mechanism, such as LDAP, NIS(+), Kerberos, and
the like. (though I'm asking for LDAP, because it owns the others ;)

Regards,

Alex.

-- System Information
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Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux cornerstone 2.2.14 #1 Wed Feb 23 03:03:04 PST 2000 i686

Versions of packages passwd depends on:
ii  libc6                        2.1.3-7     GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libpam-modules               0.72-6      Pluggable Authentication Modules f
ii  libpam0g                     0.72-6      Pluggable Authentication Modules l
ii  login                        19990827-18 System login tools                

-- Configuration Files:
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/etc/pam.d/passwd changed [not included]




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The bug submitter here sugegsts:

------------------------------
I think it would be very cool if the useradd, userdel, and related
commands (adduser would probably have to be modified, but then, maybe
not) simply used plug-ins for various name services (as glibc calls
them; a.k.a., password databases) that can be used instead of the
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the like. (though I'm asking for LDAP, because it owns the others ;)
------------------------------

I'm not really sure that interacting with other name services is
really the job of a low level utility such as useradd.

In my opinion, adding accounts in all these systems is the job of
their respective utilities (think about systems using winbind to
authenticate users in Windows domains...do we *really* want useradd to
be able to add Windows domain accounts=A0? How will it provide all the
extra information these systems may require)

In my opinion, such change is a real dream...and probably not likely.

Thoughts?

--=20






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The bug submitter here sugegsts:

------------------------------
I think it would be very cool if the useradd, userdel, and related
commands (adduser would probably have to be modified, but then, maybe
not) simply used plug-ins for various name services (as glibc calls
them; a.k.a., password databases) that can be used instead of the
traditional Unix flat-file mechanism, such as LDAP, NIS(+), Kerberos, and
the like. (though I'm asking for LDAP, because it owns the others ;)
------------------------------

I'm not really sure that interacting with other name services is
really the job of a low level utility such as useradd.

In my opinion, adding accounts in all these systems is the job of
their respective utilities (think about systems using winbind to
authenticate users in Windows domains...do we *really* want useradd to
be able to add Windows domain accounts=A0? How will it provide all the
extra information these systems may require)

In my opinion, such change is a real dream...and probably not likely.

Thoughts?

--=20






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On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 07:05:29PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> The bug submitter here sugegsts:
>=20
> ------------------------------
> I think it would be very cool if the useradd, userdel, and related
> commands (adduser would probably have to be modified, but then, maybe
> not) simply used plug-ins for various name services (as glibc calls
> them; a.k.a., password databases) that can be used instead of the
> traditional Unix flat-file mechanism, such as LDAP, NIS(+), Kerberos, and
> the like. (though I'm asking for LDAP, because it owns the others ;)
> ------------------------------
>=20
> I'm not really sure that interacting with other name services is
> really the job of a low level utility such as useradd.
>=20
> In my opinion, adding accounts in all these systems is the job of
> their respective utilities (think about systems using winbind to
> authenticate users in Windows domains...do we *really* want useradd to
> be able to add Windows domain accounts=A0? How will it provide all the
> extra information these systems may require)
>=20
> In my opinion, such change is a real dream...and probably not likely.

Wait a minute. Isn't the submitter asking (in 2000) for PAM to come true?=
=20
If you use pam_ldap.so instead of pam_unix.so in /etc/pam.d/passwd, the flat
unix files won't get modified, but the ldap tree will, won't it?

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On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 07:05:29PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> The bug submitter here sugegsts:
>=20
> ------------------------------
> I think it would be very cool if the useradd, userdel, and related
> commands (adduser would probably have to be modified, but then, maybe
> not) simply used plug-ins for various name services (as glibc calls
> them; a.k.a., password databases) that can be used instead of the
> traditional Unix flat-file mechanism, such as LDAP, NIS(+), Kerberos, and
> the like. (though I'm asking for LDAP, because it owns the others ;)
> ------------------------------
>=20
> I'm not really sure that interacting with other name services is
> really the job of a low level utility such as useradd.
>=20
> In my opinion, adding accounts in all these systems is the job of
> their respective utilities (think about systems using winbind to
> authenticate users in Windows domains...do we *really* want useradd to
> be able to add Windows domain accounts=A0? How will it provide all the
> extra information these systems may require)
>=20
> In my opinion, such change is a real dream...and probably not likely.

Wait a minute. Isn't the submitter asking (in 2000) for PAM to come true?=
=20
If you use pam_ldap.so instead of pam_unix.so in /etc/pam.d/passwd, the flat
unix files won't get modified, but the ldap tree will, won't it?

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<code>Bug#61210</code>; Package <code>passwd</code>.


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tags 61210 wontfix
thanks

> > In my opinion, adding accounts in all these systems is the job of
> > their respective utilities (think about systems using winbind to
> > authenticate users in Windows domains...do we *really* want useradd t=
o
> > be able to add Windows domain accounts=A0? How will it provide all th=
e
> > extra information these systems may require)
> >=20
> > In my opinion, such change is a real dream...and probably not likely.
>=20
> Wait a minute. Isn't the submitter asking (in 2000) for PAM to come tru=
e?=20
> If you use pam_ldap.so instead of pam_unix.so in /etc/pam.d/passwd, the=
 flat
> unix files won't get modified, but the ldap tree will, won't it?


Well, no. Doing so will allow passwd to change a password in the LDAP
backend, but will not allow useradd to add an entry in the LDAP
backend.

The more I read this bug, the more I think this suggestion is
irrelevant. useradd should remain a low-end tool to deal with
passwd/shadow name services.

Hence, tagging the bug as wontfix while I wait for more comments if
someone wants to convince me..:-)






<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>Christian Perrier &lt;bubulle@debian.org&gt;</code>:<br>
Extra info received and forwarded to list.  Copy sent to <code>Shadow package maintainers &lt;pkg-shadow-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org&gt;</code>.


-t

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tags 61210 wontfix
thanks

> > In my opinion, adding accounts in all these systems is the job of
> > their respective utilities (think about systems using winbind to
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o
> > be able to add Windows domain accounts=A0? How will it provide all th=
e
> > extra information these systems may require)
> >=20
> > In my opinion, such change is a real dream...and probably not likely.
>=20
> Wait a minute. Isn't the submitter asking (in 2000) for PAM to come tru=
e?=20
> If you use pam_ldap.so instead of pam_unix.so in /etc/pam.d/passwd, the=
 flat
> unix files won't get modified, but the ldap tree will, won't it?


Well, no. Doing so will allow passwd to change a password in the LDAP
backend, but will not allow useradd to add an entry in the LDAP
backend.

The more I read this bug, the more I think this suggestion is
irrelevant. useradd should remain a low-end tool to deal with
passwd/shadow name services.

Hence, tagging the bug as wontfix while I wait for more comments if
someone wants to convince me..:-)






<strong>Tags added: wontfix</strong>
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tags 61210 wontfix
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> > In my opinion, adding accounts in all these systems is the job of
> > their respective utilities (think about systems using winbind to
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o
> > be able to add Windows domain accounts=A0? How will it provide all th=
e
> > extra information these systems may require)
> >=20
> > In my opinion, such change is a real dream...and probably not likely.
>=20
> Wait a minute. Isn't the submitter asking (in 2000) for PAM to come tru=
e?=20
> If you use pam_ldap.so instead of pam_unix.so in /etc/pam.d/passwd, the=
 flat
> unix files won't get modified, but the ldap tree will, won't it?


Well, no. Doing so will allow passwd to change a password in the LDAP
backend, but will not allow useradd to add an entry in the LDAP
backend.

The more I read this bug, the more I think this suggestion is
irrelevant. useradd should remain a low-end tool to deal with
passwd/shadow name services.

Hence, tagging the bug as wontfix while I wait for more comments if
someone wants to convince me..:-)






<strong>Bug reassigned from package `passwd' to `adduser'.</strong>
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reassign 134473 adduser
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reassign 61210 adduser
retitle 134473 Please add a plugin-like mechanism to adduser for external authentication mechanisms
retitle 61210 Please add a plugin-like mechanism to adduser for external authentication mechanisms
merge 61210 134473
thanks

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