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Package: lintian
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The bot apt on openprojects.net IRC #debian has a handy database
of the contents of all Debian packages. A nice optional feature for
lintian would be to check whether any of the files in the package are
owned by any other packages using a similar database, avoiding possible
conflicts.
-- System Information
Debian Release: 2.2
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Versions of the packages lintian depends on:
ii binutils 2.9.5.0.22-5 The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti
ii diffstat 1.27-1 produces graph of changes introduced by a di
ii file 3.28-1 Determines file type using "magic" numbers
perl Not installed or no info
ii perl-5.005 5.005.03-6 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report
^^^ (Provides virtual package perl5)
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Package: lintian
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The bot apt on openprojects.net IRC #debian has a handy database
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lintian would be to check whether any of the files in the package are
owned by any other packages using a similar database, avoiding possible
conflicts.
-- System Information
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ii binutils 2.9.5.0.22-5 The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti
ii diffstat 1.27-1 produces graph of changes introduced by a di
ii file 3.28-1 Determines file type using "magic" numbers
perl Not installed or no info
ii perl-5.005 5.005.03-6 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report
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This doesn't actually seem practical. The bots* do not maintain any sort of
database of other files owned. They run dpkg --contents every time they
need too. Such a database would be huge to keep....
Still, I'll look into it.. I just got an idea... Maybe if you download,
independently, the Contents file from ftp... I think that lists the same
thing... But it wouldn't be a standard part of Lintian.. just an add-on if
you're so inclined.
I will look...
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 12:41:50PM -0500, Chris Pimlott wrote:
> Package: lintian
> Version: 1.11.2
> Severity: wishlist
>=20
> The bot apt on openprojects.net IRC #debian has a handy database
> of the contents of all Debian packages. A nice optional feature for
> lintian would be to check whether any of the files in the package are
> owned by any other packages using a similar database, avoiding possible
> conflicts.
>=20
> -- System Information
> Debian Release: 2.2
> Kernel Version: Linux moebius.student.cwru.edu 2.2.14 #5 Fri Feb 4 20:16:=
02 EST 2000 i686 unknown
>=20
> Versions of the packages lintian depends on:
> ii binutils 2.9.5.0.22-5 The GNU assembler, linker and binary ut=
iliti
> ii diffstat 1.27-1 produces graph of changes introduced by=
a di
> ii file 3.28-1 Determines file type using "magic" numb=
ers
> perl Not installed or no info
> ii perl-5.005 5.005.03-6 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and R=
eport
> ^^^ (Provides virtual package perl5)
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> Lintian mailing list
> Lintian@benham.net
> http://benham.net/mailman/listinfo/lintian
>=20
--=20
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This doesn't actually seem practical. The bots* do not maintain any sort of
database of other files owned. They run dpkg --contents every time they
need too. Such a database would be huge to keep....
Still, I'll look into it.. I just got an idea... Maybe if you download,
independently, the Contents file from ftp... I think that lists the same
thing... But it wouldn't be a standard part of Lintian.. just an add-on if
you're so inclined.
I will look...
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 12:41:50PM -0500, Chris Pimlott wrote:
> Package: lintian
> Version: 1.11.2
> Severity: wishlist
>=20
> The bot apt on openprojects.net IRC #debian has a handy database
> of the contents of all Debian packages. A nice optional feature for
> lintian would be to check whether any of the files in the package are
> owned by any other packages using a similar database, avoiding possible
> conflicts.
>=20
> -- System Information
> Debian Release: 2.2
> Kernel Version: Linux moebius.student.cwru.edu 2.2.14 #5 Fri Feb 4 20:16:=
02 EST 2000 i686 unknown
>=20
> Versions of the packages lintian depends on:
> ii binutils 2.9.5.0.22-5 The GNU assembler, linker and binary ut=
iliti
> ii diffstat 1.27-1 produces graph of changes introduced by=
a di
> ii file 3.28-1 Determines file type using "magic" numb=
ers
> perl Not installed or no info
> ii perl-5.005 5.005.03-6 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and R=
eport
> ^^^ (Provides virtual package perl5)
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> Lintian mailing list
> Lintian@benham.net
> http://benham.net/mailman/listinfo/lintian
>=20
--=20
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Darren O. Benham wrote:
> This doesn't actually seem practical. The bots* do not maintain any sort of
> database of other files owned. They run dpkg --contents every time they
> need too. Such a database would be huge to keep....
>
> Still, I'll look into it.. I just got an idea... Maybe if you download,
> independently, the Contents file from ftp... I think that lists the same
> thing... But it wouldn't be a standard part of Lintian.. just an add-on if
> you're so inclined.
>
I was thinking that the database could be centrally maintained,
say at debian.org, and queried remotely. This would be another reason for
it to be optional, since it would require a net connection. The database
could of course also be used to provide the find functionality of the bots
on the web page.
Chris Pimlott
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Darren O. Benham wrote:
> This doesn't actually seem practical. The bots* do not maintain any sort of
> database of other files owned. They run dpkg --contents every time they
> need too. Such a database would be huge to keep....
>
> Still, I'll look into it.. I just got an idea... Maybe if you download,
> independently, the Contents file from ftp... I think that lists the same
> thing... But it wouldn't be a standard part of Lintian.. just an add-on if
> you're so inclined.
>
I was thinking that the database could be centrally maintained,
say at debian.org, and queried remotely. This would be another reason for
it to be optional, since it would require a net connection. The database
could of course also be used to provide the find functionality of the bots
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Chris Pimlott
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I was thinking about working on a patch for this, and I'm not sure that there's
enough data in the Contents file to do this. Specifically, the packages in the
Contents files are not versioned. A package could have a correct versioned
conflicts with another package, and it would still set off a test based on the
Contents file. At best, I think this could be a warning (possible conflicting
file).
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I was thinking about working on a patch for this, and I'm not sure that there's
enough data in the Contents file to do this. Specifically, the packages in the
Contents files are not versioned. A package could have a correct versioned
conflicts with another package, and it would still set off a test based on the
Contents file. At best, I think this could be a warning (possible conflicting
file).
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Justin Pryzby writes:
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> Justin
First of all how do you plan to update the testing package every day?
They should reflect the testing Contents, right?
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Ok, you can probably use the Contents-i386.gz and diffs for other
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Still way way to much data on a daily basis.
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> Justin
First of all how do you plan to update the testing package every day?
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You also have to release a new version every day. That is an 8MB deb
per arch and a source containing all 13 archs. That is 208MB updates
per day and suite. ~400MB for testing and unstable every day.
Ok, you can probably use the Contents-i386.gz and diffs for other
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> > Could we have a package which provides /usr/share/.../Contents.gz?
> > Not sure that share/ is the right place. And as Matt said, versioning
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> > Justin
>
> First of all how do you plan to update the testing package every day?
That would be ideal..
> They should reflect the testing Contents, right?
Contents of whatever is installed, preferably.
> You also have to release a new version every day. That is an 8MB deb
> per arch and a source containing all 13 archs. That is 208MB updates
> per day and suite. ~400MB for testing and unstable every day.
Are architectures Contents ever significantly different?
> Still way way to much data on a daily basis.
Hadn't thought of that.
> I think the only sensible and simple thing to do is to provide a zsync
> file for the Contents files (zsync can 'look into' gz to rsync just
> the changes). Then every user can use a cron job to zsync the file to
> his system on a daily, weekly, monthly, whatever basis. zsync uses the
> http protocol so any http mirror carrying the Contents files will do
> as source.
So maybe an debian-contents-updater package. It contains some cronjob
entry, maybe a debconf question, or it uses /etc/defaults/. Yes, that
would work nicely, I think.
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> > Could we have a package which provides /usr/share/.../Contents.gz?
> > Not sure that share/ is the right place. And as Matt said, versioning
> > is a potential problem. But lintian (and others: apt-file) could
> > depend on this package (say, debian-dist-contents).
> >
> > Justin
>
> First of all how do you plan to update the testing package every day?
That would be ideal..
> They should reflect the testing Contents, right?
Contents of whatever is installed, preferably.
> You also have to release a new version every day. That is an 8MB deb
> per arch and a source containing all 13 archs. That is 208MB updates
> per day and suite. ~400MB for testing and unstable every day.
Are architectures Contents ever significantly different?
> Still way way to much data on a daily basis.
Hadn't thought of that.
> I think the only sensible and simple thing to do is to provide a zsync
> file for the Contents files (zsync can 'look into' gz to rsync just
> the changes). Then every user can use a cron job to zsync the file to
> his system on a daily, weekly, monthly, whatever basis. zsync uses the
> http protocol so any http mirror carrying the Contents files will do
> as source.
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entry, maybe a debconf question, or it uses /etc/defaults/. Yes, that
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>> his system on a daily, weekly, monthly, whatever basis. zsync uses the
>> http protocol so any http mirror carrying the Contents files will do
>> as source.
> What about creating a package to do this automatically (using debconf to ask how
> often to run)? It could be a really small package (just one shell script and
> docs) and lintian et al could depend/recommend/suggest it.
Obviously. :)
MfG
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>> as source.
> What about creating a package to do this automatically (using debconf to ask how
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> docs) and lintian et al could depend/recommend/suggest it.
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On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 10:09:07AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
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> > I think the only sensible and simple thing to do is to provide a zsync
> > file for the Contents files (zsync can 'look into' gz to rsync just
> > the changes). Then every user can use a cron job to zsync the file to
> > his system on a daily, weekly, monthly, whatever basis. zsync uses the
> > http protocol so any http mirror carrying the Contents files will do
> > as source.
> So maybe an debian-contents-updater package. It contains some cronjob
> entry, maybe a debconf question, or it uses /etc/defaults/. Yes, that
> would work nicely, I think.
what about including this (zsync'ed Contents plus cronjob) in apt-file (whi=
ch
needs Contents anyway) or including a symlink for apt-file so it uses it
instead of downloading a new one on apt-file update
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> > as source.
> So maybe an debian-contents-updater package. It contains some cronjob
> entry, maybe a debconf question, or it uses /etc/defaults/. Yes, that
> would work nicely, I think.
what about including this (zsync'ed Contents plus cronjob) in apt-file (whi=
ch
needs Contents anyway) or including a symlink for apt-file so it uses it
instead of downloading a new one on apt-file update
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Subject: lintian: Check packages contents database for possible file conflicts
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:41:50 -0500
Package: lintian
Version: 1.11.2
Severity: wishlist
The bot apt on openprojects.net IRC #debian has a handy database
of the contents of all Debian packages. A nice optional feature for
lintian would be to check whether any of the files in the package are
owned by any other packages using a similar database, avoiding possible
conflicts.
-- System Information
Debian Release: 2.2
Kernel Version: Linux moebius.student.cwru.edu 2.2.14 #5 Fri Feb 4 20:16:02 EST 2000 i686 unknown
Versions of the packages lintian depends on:
ii binutils 2.9.5.0.22-5 The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti
ii diffstat 1.27-1 produces graph of changes introduced by a di
ii file 3.28-1 Determines file type using "magic" numbers
perl Not installed or no info
ii perl-5.005 5.005.03-6 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report
^^^ (Provides virtual package perl5)
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From: Holger Levsen
To: Ralf Treinen ,
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Subject: Re: Bug#60810: Processed: this sounds like a nice problem to be solved with UDD :)
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Hi Ralf,
On Friday 19 September 2008 20:44, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> These tests are curently run on a regular basis on the archive, see [1] for
> a documentation. Detected bugs are filed with a usertag [2].
Wonderful.
Thanks,
Holger :-)
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