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Bug#77405; Package bbdb.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgTakuo KITAME  Subject: Bug#77405: bbdb: I have a problem with bbdb-init requiring message. Reply-To: Davide G.M.Salvetti , 77405@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Davide G.M.Salvetti Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Takuo KITAME Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:03:47 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 77405 X-Debian-PR-Package: bbdb X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by bugs@bugs.debian.org id=B.97460100121372 (code B ref -1); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:03:47 GMT From: Davide G.M.Salvetti To: submit@bugs.debian.org X-Mailer: bug 3.3.7 Message-Id: <20001119021326.9C6E16B54@hal.olympus.fake> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:13:26 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org Package: bbdb Version: 2.00.06.20001015cvs-3 Severity: wishlist Hi, I have a problem with /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-init.el. Is it absolutely necessary to (require 'message) in it? I'm using my own Gnus, in my own $HOME, and I have to (unload-feature 'message t) and (unload-feature 'nnheader t) in my "~/.emacs", because bbdb-init.el requires the old (Emacs 20.7) version of message (which itself requires the old version of nnheader) before I (as a user) have a chance to set the load-path in my "~/.emacs", with my own gnus/lisp directory first. (Obviously the stock message and nnheader libraries happen to be sadly incompatible with the latest one from the bleeding edge Gnus, and of course I do have to load these latest one instead or Gnus won't work at all.) The other alternative I see consists in setting the load-path early, before bbdb-init.el gets loaded, which I may do with a (setq ...) in, say, a "10local.el" file in "/etc/emacs/site-start.d/". However either way (unload-feature or "10local.el") is an ad-hoc hack I (as a normal Debian user) would better not to have to resort using. The first one, because as a normal user who want to run its own bleeding edge Gnus, I shouldn't be supposed to grok lisp and unload-features here and there: I should be able to just get the latest Gnus from CVS, do ./configure && make and happily run it. The second one, because as a normal user I may not have the root privileges required to put a "10local.el" file in place, but I should still be able to just get the latest Gnus from CVS and so on. What do you think? (Please, excuse my bad English, as it's not my first language.) -- Davide Giovanni Maria Salvetti W: http://www.linux.it/~salve/ OpenPGP (GPG) Key ID: 939686D5 -- System Information Debian Release: woody Kernel Version: Linux hal 2.2.16 #1 Tue Sep 5 14:42:47 CEST 2000 i586 unknown Versions of the packages bbdb depends on: ii make 3.79.1-1 The GNU version of the "make" utility. ii emacs20 20.7-3 The GNU Emacs editor. ^^^ (Provides virtual package emacsen)   Acknowledgement sent to Davide G.M.Salvetti <salve@hal.linux.it>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Takuo KITAME <kitame@northeye.org>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Davide G.M.Salvetti Subject: Bug#77405: Acknowledgement (bbdb: I have a problem with bbdb-init requiring message.) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20001119021326.9C6E16B54@hal.olympus.fake> References: <20001119021326.9C6E16B54@hal.olympus.fake> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack 77405 Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Takuo KITAME If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 77405@bugs.debian.org (and *not* to bugs@bugs.debian.org). Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database)   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 19 Nov 2000 02:30:01 +0000 From salve@hal.linux.it Sat Nov 18 20:30:01 2000 Return-path: Received: from smtp5.libero.it [193.70.192.55] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 13xKEz-0005Xw-00; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:30:01 -0600 Received: from hal.olympus.fake (151.14.165.10) by smtp5.libero.it; 19 Nov 2000 03:29:38 +0100 Received: by hal.olympus.fake (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9C6E16B54; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:13:26 +0100 (CET) From: Davide G.M.Salvetti Subject: bbdb: I have a problem with bbdb-init requiring message. To: submit@bugs.debian.org X-Mailer: bug 3.3.7 Message-Id: <20001119021326.9C6E16B54@hal.olympus.fake> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:13:26 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: submit@bugs.debian.org Package: bbdb Version: 2.00.06.20001015cvs-3 Severity: wishlist Hi, I have a problem with /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-init.el. Is it absolutely necessary to (require 'message) in it? I'm using my own Gnus, in my own $HOME, and I have to (unload-feature 'message t) and (unload-feature 'nnheader t) in my "~/.emacs", because bbdb-init.el requires the old (Emacs 20.7) version of message (which itself requires the old version of nnheader) before I (as a user) have a chance to set the load-path in my "~/.emacs", with my own gnus/lisp directory first. (Obviously the stock message and nnheader libraries happen to be sadly incompatible with the latest one from the bleeding edge Gnus, and of course I do have to load these latest one instead or Gnus won't work at all.) The other alternative I see consists in setting the load-path early, before bbdb-init.el gets loaded, which I may do with a (setq ...) in, say, a "10local.el" file in "/etc/emacs/site-start.d/". However either way (unload-feature or "10local.el") is an ad-hoc hack I (as a normal Debian user) would better not to have to resort using. The first one, because as a normal user who want to run its own bleeding edge Gnus, I shouldn't be supposed to grok lisp and unload-features here and there: I should be able to just get the latest Gnus from CVS, do ./configure && make and happily run it. The second one, because as a normal user I may not have the root privileges required to put a "10local.el" file in place, but I should still be able to just get the latest Gnus from CVS and so on. What do you think? (Please, excuse my bad English, as it's not my first language.) -- Davide Giovanni Maria Salvetti W: http://www.linux.it/~salve/ OpenPGP (GPG) Key ID: 939686D5 -- System Information Debian Release: woody Kernel Version: Linux hal 2.2.16 #1 Tue Sep 5 14:42:47 CEST 2000 i586 unknown Versions of the packages bbdb depends on: ii make 3.79.1-1 The GNU version of the "make" utility. ii emacs20 20.7-3 The GNU Emacs editor. ^^^ (Provides virtual package emacsen)   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org>:
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