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Hi,
It's probably something about this that I don't understand, but the
RSA support in gnupg 1.0.3-2 seems to be missing:
| % gpg --local-user 'Joel Rosdahl ' --clearsign --armor --textmode --output - <../tkcvs_6.4-1.dsc
| gpg: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: error loading extension: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
| [...]
| % dpkg -L gnupg
| /.
| /usr
| /usr/lib
| /usr/lib/gnupg
| /usr/lib/gnupg/rndunix
| /usr/lib/gnupg/rndegd
| /usr/lib/gnupg/tiger
| /usr/bin
| [...]
Regards,
Joel
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Hi,
It's probably something about this that I don't understand, but the
RSA support in gnupg 1.0.3-2 seems to be missing:
| % gpg --local-user 'Joel Rosdahl ' --clearsign --armor --textmode --output - <../tkcvs_6.4-1.dsc
| gpg: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: error loading extension: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
| [...]
| % dpkg -L gnupg
| /.
| /usr
| /usr/lib
| /usr/lib/gnupg
| /usr/lib/gnupg/rndunix
| /usr/lib/gnupg/rndegd
| /usr/lib/gnupg/tiger
| /usr/bin
| [...]
Regards,
Joel
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retitle 74902 [C] gnupg: needs to warn about "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options files
thanks
Joel Rosdahl writes:
[...]
> It's probably something about this that I don't understand, but the
> RSA support in gnupg 1.0.3-2 seems to be missing:
>
> | % gpg --local-user 'Joel Rosdahl ' --clearsign --armor --textmode --output - <../tkcvs_6.4-1.dsc
> | gpg: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: error loading extension: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> | [...]
Remove "load-extension rsa" from your .gnupg/options file.
> | % dpkg -L gnupg
> | /.
> | /usr
> | /usr/lib
> | /usr/lib/gnupg
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/rndunix
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/rndegd
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/tiger
> | /usr/bin
> | [...]
Those are just the dynamic modules; RSA is compiled statically. Try
gpg --help | less and look at the "Supported algorithms" section near
the top.
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retitle 74902 [C] gnupg: needs to warn about "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options files
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Joel Rosdahl writes:
[...]
> It's probably something about this that I don't understand, but the
> RSA support in gnupg 1.0.3-2 seems to be missing:
>
> | % gpg --local-user 'Joel Rosdahl ' --clearsign --armor --textmode --output - <../tkcvs_6.4-1.dsc
> | gpg: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: error loading extension: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> | [...]
Remove "load-extension rsa" from your .gnupg/options file.
> | % dpkg -L gnupg
> | /.
> | /usr
> | /usr/lib
> | /usr/lib/gnupg
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/rndunix
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/rndegd
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/tiger
> | /usr/bin
> | [...]
Those are just the dynamic modules; RSA is compiled statically. Try
gpg --help | less and look at the "Supported algorithms" section near
the top.
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James Troup writes:
> Remove "load-extension rsa" from your .gnupg/options file.
> [...]
> Those are just the dynamic modules; RSA is compiled statically. Try
> gpg --help | less and look at the "Supported algorithms" section near
> the top.
Thanks! Yes, a warning seems very appropriate.
Regards,
Joel
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> Remove "load-extension rsa" from your .gnupg/options file.
> [...]
> Those are just the dynamic modules; RSA is compiled statically. Try
> gpg --help | less and look at the "Supported algorithms" section near
> the top.
Thanks! Yes, a warning seems very appropriate.
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retitle 74902 [C] gnupg: needs to warn about "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options files
thanks
Joel Rosdahl writes:
[...]
> It's probably something about this that I don't understand, but the
> RSA support in gnupg 1.0.3-2 seems to be missing:
>
> | % gpg --local-user 'Joel Rosdahl ' --clearsign --armor --textmode --output - <../tkcvs_6.4-1.dsc
> | gpg: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: error loading extension: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> | [...]
Remove "load-extension rsa" from your .gnupg/options file.
> | % dpkg -L gnupg
> | /.
> | /usr
> | /usr/lib
> | /usr/lib/gnupg
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/rndunix
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/rndegd
> | /usr/lib/gnupg/tiger
> | /usr/bin
> | [...]
Those are just the dynamic modules; RSA is compiled statically. Try
gpg --help | less and look at the "Supported algorithms" section near
the top.
--
James
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the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
"load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
This shouldn't happen ???
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the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
"load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
This shouldn't happen ???
Guenter
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On 00-11-09 Guenter Geiger wrote:
> the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
> "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
> This shouldn't happen ???
Why? How should the program figure out that the user broke his
configuration by not reading the documentation?=20
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On 00-11-09 Guenter Geiger wrote:
> the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
> "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
> This shouldn't happen ???
Why? How should the program figure out that the user broke his
configuration by not reading the documentation?=20
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The program should just recover gracefully from a bad configuration,
instead of doing no signing at all.
i.e it should just not load the module, warn about it, and continue.
But you're right, that's an upstream problem rather.
I just thought that others may have the same problem when upgrading,
(I did read the documentation once ... should I have to read it every
time I upgrade a package ???) and it cost me a certain amount of time
to figure out what was going on.
Guenter
Christian Kurz writes:
> On 00-11-09 Guenter Geiger wrote:
> > the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
> > "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
>
> > This shouldn't happen ???
>
> Why? How should the program figure out that the user broke his
> configuration by not reading the documentation?
>
> Ciao
> Christian
> --
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The program should just recover gracefully from a bad configuration,
instead of doing no signing at all.
i.e it should just not load the module, warn about it, and continue.
But you're right, that's an upstream problem rather.
I just thought that others may have the same problem when upgrading,
(I did read the documentation once ... should I have to read it every
time I upgrade a package ???) and it cost me a certain amount of time
to figure out what was going on.
Guenter
Christian Kurz writes:
> On 00-11-09 Guenter Geiger wrote:
> > the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
> > "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
>
> > This shouldn't happen ???
>
> Why? How should the program figure out that the user broke his
> configuration by not reading the documentation?
>
> Ciao
> Christian
> --
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On 00-11-10 Guenter Geiger wrote:
> The program should just recover gracefully from a bad configuration,
> instead of doing no signing at all. i.e it should just not load the
> module, warn about it, and continue.
Why? If you for example modify the brakes of your car, do you want the
car manufacturer to make sure, that everything still works and you can
use the car like you made not modification? The same applies here. If
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> that others may have the same problem when upgrading, (I did read the
> documentation once ... should I have to read it every time I upgrade a
> package ???) and it cost me a certain amount of time to figure out
> what was going on.
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On 00-11-10 Guenter Geiger wrote:
> The program should just recover gracefully from a bad configuration,
> instead of doing no signing at all. i.e it should just not load the
> module, warn about it, and continue.
Why? If you for example modify the brakes of your car, do you want the
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> that others may have the same problem when upgrading, (I did read the
> documentation once ... should I have to read it every time I upgrade a
> package ???) and it cost me a certain amount of time to figure out
> what was going on.
No, but look in the changelog.Debian.gz if some problems occur to see
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Ok, I don't really understand your car analogy, IMO it has nothing to
do with this case.
You are right that there are ways to find out what went wrong, but
obviously I'm not the first one who was trapped with this, and many
users will have the same problem, even if you print a warning.
(I consider the change in the source about issuing a warning and
fixing the behaviour an equally complex task).
Guenter
Christian Kurz writes:
> On 00-11-10 Guenter Geiger wrote:
> > The program should just recover gracefully from a bad configuration,
> > instead of doing no signing at all. i.e it should just not load the
> > module, warn about it, and continue.
>
> Why? If you for example modify the brakes of your car, do you want the
> car manufacturer to make sure, that everything still works and you can
> use the car like you made not modification? The same applies here. If
> you use a personal configuration, you have to make sure that it's still
> valid and corect the errors in it. A software should give you an
> error-message, like it happened here, but not just continue to work.
>
> > that others may have the same problem when upgrading, (I did read the
> > documentation once ... should I have to read it every time I upgrade a
> > package ???) and it cost me a certain amount of time to figure out
> > what was going on.
>
> No, but look in the changelog.Debian.gz if some problems occur to see
> what has changed. Mostly you see there what has happened and why you
> know get an error mesage or just reading the error message helps in
> fixing the bug.
>
> Ciao
> Christian
>
> --
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Ok, I don't really understand your car analogy, IMO it has nothing to
do with this case.
You are right that there are ways to find out what went wrong, but
obviously I'm not the first one who was trapped with this, and many
users will have the same problem, even if you print a warning.
(I consider the change in the source about issuing a warning and
fixing the behaviour an equally complex task).
Guenter
Christian Kurz writes:
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> > The program should just recover gracefully from a bad configuration,
> > instead of doing no signing at all. i.e it should just not load the
> > module, warn about it, and continue.
>
> Why? If you for example modify the brakes of your car, do you want the
> car manufacturer to make sure, that everything still works and you can
> use the car like you made not modification? The same applies here. If
> you use a personal configuration, you have to make sure that it's still
> valid and corect the errors in it. A software should give you an
> error-message, like it happened here, but not just continue to work.
>
> > that others may have the same problem when upgrading, (I did read the
> > documentation once ... should I have to read it every time I upgrade a
> > package ???) and it cost me a certain amount of time to figure out
> > what was going on.
>
> No, but look in the changelog.Debian.gz if some problems occur to see
> what has changed. Mostly you see there what has happened and why you
> know get an error mesage or just reading the error message helps in
> fixing the bug.
>
> Ciao
> Christian
>
> --
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Hi,
I also got bitten by that.
Christian Kurz wrote:
>On 00-11-09 Guenter Geiger wrote:
>>> the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
>>> "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
>> This shouldn't happen ???
>Why? How should the program figure out that the user broke his
>configuration by not reading the documentation?
Principle of least surprise. It worked before (even: it was necessary
to have this entry), it doesn't work now.
For no appearant reason, from the users point of view. How should he
know, he has to remove the option he was told to add, in the new
versions of the package?
Also the error message itself doesn't give any clue on that.
If sou do not agree on this argument, then at least add something to
README.Debian, please.
Ciao,
Martin
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Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to James Troup <james@nocrew.org>.
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Hi,
I also got bitten by that.
Christian Kurz wrote:
>On 00-11-09 Guenter Geiger wrote:
>>> the problem with this bug is, that signing doesn't work if I have the
>>> "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options.
>> This shouldn't happen ???
>Why? How should the program figure out that the user broke his
>configuration by not reading the documentation?
Principle of least surprise. It worked before (even: it was necessary
to have this entry), it doesn't work now.
For no appearant reason, from the users point of view. How should he
know, he has to remove the option he was told to add, in the new
versions of the package?
Also the error message itself doesn't give any clue on that.
If sou do not agree on this argument, then at least add something to
README.Debian, please.
Ciao,
Martin
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severity 74902 wishlist
tags 74902 + upstream
retitle 74902 gnupg: would be nice to warn about "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options files
retitle 72148 gnupg: will deadlock with no timeout if keyserver cannot close socket
tags 76545 + upstream
forwarded 76545 upstream
retitle 42673 gnupg: no way of setting default compression level
tags 42673 + upstream
retitle 28631 gnupg: missing trailing newline in clearsigning
tags 28631 + upstream
retitle 47973 gnupg: --help does not describe the --always-trust command-line option
tags 47973 + upstream
retitle 58260 gnupg: should remove lockfiles of 'probably dead' processes, or tell user how to unlock the keyring.
tags 58260 + upstream
retitle 59614 gnupg: could be more intuitive
tags 59614 + upstream
retitle 59617 gnupg: should remove old lock file itself
tags 59617 + upstream
retitle 60511 gnupg: questions in italian, answers in english?
tags 60511 + upstream
retitle 61772 gnupg: should have a way to update keys from a keyserver
tags 61772 + upstream
retitle 67564 gnupg: gnupg opens secret keyring unnecessarily
tags 67564 + upstream
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James
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severity 74902 wishlist
tags 74902 + upstream
retitle 74902 gnupg: would be nice to warn about "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options files
retitle 72148 gnupg: will deadlock with no timeout if keyserver cannot close socket
tags 76545 + upstream
forwarded 76545 upstream
retitle 42673 gnupg: no way of setting default compression level
tags 42673 + upstream
retitle 28631 gnupg: missing trailing newline in clearsigning
tags 28631 + upstream
retitle 47973 gnupg: --help does not describe the --always-trust command-line option
tags 47973 + upstream
retitle 58260 gnupg: should remove lockfiles of 'probably dead' processes, or tell user how to unlock the keyring.
tags 58260 + upstream
retitle 59614 gnupg: could be more intuitive
tags 59614 + upstream
retitle 59617 gnupg: should remove old lock file itself
tags 59617 + upstream
retitle 60511 gnupg: questions in italian, answers in english?
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retitle 61772 gnupg: should have a way to update keys from a keyserver
tags 61772 + upstream
retitle 67564 gnupg: gnupg opens secret keyring unnecessarily
tags 67564 + upstream
thanks
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James
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severity 74902 wishlist
tags 74902 + upstream
retitle 74902 gnupg: would be nice to warn about "load-extension rsa" in .gnupg/options files
retitle 72148 gnupg: will deadlock with no timeout if keyserver cannot close socket
tags 76545 + upstream
forwarded 76545 upstream
retitle 42673 gnupg: no way of setting default compression level
tags 42673 + upstream
retitle 28631 gnupg: missing trailing newline in clearsigning
tags 28631 + upstream
retitle 47973 gnupg: --help does not describe the --always-trust command-line option
tags 47973 + upstream
retitle 58260 gnupg: should remove lockfiles of 'probably dead' processes, or tell user how to unlock the keyring.
tags 58260 + upstream
retitle 59614 gnupg: could be more intuitive
tags 59614 + upstream
retitle 59617 gnupg: should remove old lock file itself
tags 59617 + upstream
retitle 60511 gnupg: questions in italian, answers in english?
tags 60511 + upstream
retitle 61772 gnupg: should have a way to update keys from a keyserver
tags 61772 + upstream
retitle 67564 gnupg: gnupg opens secret keyring unnecessarily
tags 67564 + upstream
thanks
--
James