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Bug#44402; Package isdnutils.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgPaul Slootman  Subject: Bug#44402: WISH: better documentation of chargeint feature Reply-To: Kai Duebbert , 44402@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Kai Duebbert Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Paul Slootman Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 19:03:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj@debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 44402 X-Debian-PR-Package: isdnutils X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by bugs@bugs.debian.org id=B.93655789915564 (code B ref -1); Sun, 05 Sep 1999 19:03:01 GMT From: Kai Duebbert To: submit@bugs.debian.org Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:31:14 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99090520573801.02801@kad> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Package: isdnutils Version: 3.0-13 Just spend the last four hours finding out, why the chargehup/chargeint feature of isdnlog didn't work. The documentation is not very good. The information is hidden in the manpage of callerid.conf and it's not mentioned in the manpage for isdnlog, where it should be as well. The problem is that isdnlog needs an INTERFACE entry in callerid.conf for the corresponding number or it doesn't calculate nor set the new chargeint number. Please add the following (simple) information to the following files and it will make it obvious how to use it (actually isdnlog should bring up an errormessage, if chargeint is configured but it can't find an INTERFACE entry for the number, but that's a problem for the developers and I might send them this email too): callerid.conf: add an "INTERFACE = ippp0" to the T-Online entry or even better add an entry: [NUMBER] NUMBER = 12345 ALIAS = Internet Provider INTERFACE = ippp0 # important for chargeint feature isdnlog.DEVICE: #hangup = 5:3 # enable chargehup with 5 / 3 seconds security gap # add the interface to the corresponding # number in callerid.conf to make this work # (INTERFACE = DEVICE). man isdnlog.8: add an comment with the "-hX" option that it needs the INTERFACE option in callerid.conf (see callerid.conf manpage) ok, these are the obvious files where, I think, it should be. It is really annoying that the isdn4linux people didn't think of a quick comment on this option other than in the callerid.conf manpage. And I think it would help save time and money (I had about 30 phonecalls to test, if the feature works with this or that option turned off/on and after searching the net for hours I found the right answer nearly by accident at the Suse Support database for what I love Suse now...;-) ). It is a really cool feature especially if you have to pay for your local calls like in Germany. Kai -- Kai Duebbert e-Mail: kai@duebbert.de Debian Linux - For A Better World - http://www.debian.org   Acknowledgement sent to Kai Duebbert <kai@duebbert.de>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Paul Slootman <paul@debian.org>.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Kai Duebbert Subject: Bug#44402: Acknowledgement (WISH: better documentation of chargeint feature) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99090520573801.02801@kad> References: <99090520573801.02801@kad> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack 44402 Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers' mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Paul Slootman If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 44402@bugs.debian.org (and *not* to bugs@bugs.debian.org). Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Ian Jackson (administrator, Debian bugs database)   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Sep 1999 18:58:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 15471 invoked from network); 5 Sep 1999 18:58:18 -0000 Received: from mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de (@129.187.254.101) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 5 Sep 1999 18:58:18 -0000 Return-Path: Received: from [129.187.26.195] by mailout.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP for submit@bugs.debian.org; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:58:15 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kad ident=kd) by localhost with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1 (Debian)) for submit@bugs.debian.org id 11NhTu-0000oG-00; Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:57:38 +0200 From: Kai Duebbert To: submit@bugs.debian.org Subject: WISH: better documentation of chargeint feature Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:31:14 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99090520573801.02801@kad> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Package: isdnutils Version: 3.0-13 Just spend the last four hours finding out, why the chargehup/chargeint feature of isdnlog didn't work. The documentation is not very good. The information is hidden in the manpage of callerid.conf and it's not mentioned in the manpage for isdnlog, where it should be as well. The problem is that isdnlog needs an INTERFACE entry in callerid.conf for the corresponding number or it doesn't calculate nor set the new chargeint number. Please add the following (simple) information to the following files and it will make it obvious how to use it (actually isdnlog should bring up an errormessage, if chargeint is configured but it can't find an INTERFACE entry for the number, but that's a problem for the developers and I might send them this email too): callerid.conf: add an "INTERFACE = ippp0" to the T-Online entry or even better add an entry: [NUMBER] NUMBER = 12345 ALIAS = Internet Provider INTERFACE = ippp0 # important for chargeint feature isdnlog.DEVICE: #hangup = 5:3 # enable chargehup with 5 / 3 seconds security gap # add the interface to the corresponding # number in callerid.conf to make this work # (INTERFACE = DEVICE). man isdnlog.8: add an comment with the "-hX" option that it needs the INTERFACE option in callerid.conf (see callerid.conf manpage) ok, these are the obvious files where, I think, it should be. It is really annoying that the isdn4linux people didn't think of a quick comment on this option other than in the callerid.conf manpage. And I think it would help save time and money (I had about 30 phonecalls to test, if the feature works with this or that option turned off/on and after searching the net for hours I found the right answer nearly by accident at the Suse Support database for what I love Suse now...;-) ). It is a really cool feature especially if you have to pay for your local calls like in Germany. Kai -- Kai Duebbert e-Mail: kai@duebbert.de Debian Linux - For A Better World - http://www.debian.org   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org:
Bug#44402; Package isdnutils.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org  Subject: Bug#44402: WISH: better documentation of chargeint feature Reply-To: Paul Slootman , 44402@bugs.debian.org Resent-From: Paul Slootman Orignal-Sender: Paul Slootman Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:48:00 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj@debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 44402 X-Debian-PR-Package: isdnutils X-Debian-PR-Keywords: X-Loop: owner@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 44402-bugs@bugs.debian.org id=B44402.9367155106409 (code B ref 44402); Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:48:00 GMT Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:45:00 +0200 From: Paul Slootman To: Kai Duebbert Cc: 44402@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: <19990907164500.A25080@janux> References: <99090520573801.02801@kad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i In-Reply-To: <99090520573801.02801@kad> from "Kai Duebbert" on 1999/09/05 20:31 +0200 Sender: Paul Slootman On Sun 05 Sep 1999, Kai Duebbert wrote: > > Just spend the last four hours finding out, why the chargehup/chargeint > feature of isdnlog didn't work. The documentation is not very good. The No, it's not... The isdnlog people are more concerned for many features for documenting them all :-( It is worse with the new version that they are working on currently. It's been more or less unusable for months now, and they are still adding new things to it before making sure that everything works properly (and is documented!) before continuing... > information is hidden in the manpage of callerid.conf and it's not mentioned in > the manpage for isdnlog, where it should be as well. The problem is that > isdnlog needs an INTERFACE entry in callerid.conf for the corresponding number > or it doesn't calculate nor set the new chargeint number. > > Please add the following (simple) information to the following files and it > will make it obvious how to use it (actually isdnlog should bring up an Thanks for your suggestions, I'll add stuff to the next version of isdnutils. > errormessage, if chargeint is configured but it can't find an INTERFACE entry > for the number, but that's a problem for the developers and I might send them > this email too): They'll probably say that it is not relevant anymore because the new version is different anyway :-( > I love Suse now...;-) ). It is a really cool feature especially if you have to > pay for your local calls like in Germany. I have to pay also, but I pay 0,10 for an initial connect, then immediately a fixed rate of X per second (so it ALWAYS costs money for every second you are connected, no fixed rate for every X seconds). E.g. 0 seconds connected costs 0,10, 1 seconds connected costs 0,1007, 2 seconds costs 0,1014, etc. So the chargehup system is of no use in the Netherlands :-( (which is partly why I've never really looked at how it works in detail). Paul Slootman -- home: paul@wurtel.demon.nl | work: paul@murphy.nl | debian: paul@debian.org http://www.wurtel.demon.nl | Murphy Software, Enschede, the Netherlands   Acknowledgement sent to Paul Slootman <paul@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list.   -t  From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) To: Paul Slootman Subject: Bug#44402: Info received (was Bug#44402: WISH: better documentation of chargeint feature) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990907164500.A25080@janux> References: <19990907164500.A25080@janux> X-Debian-PR-Message: ack-info-maintonly 44402 Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developer(s) and to the developers' mailing list to accompany the original report. If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please send it to 44402@bugs.debian.org, as before. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Ian Jackson (administrator, Debian bugs database)   Received: (at 44402) by bugs.debian.org; 7 Sep 1999 14:45:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 6396 invoked from network); 7 Sep 1999 14:45:09 -0000 Received: from ahwau.xs4all.nl (HELO janux.wau.mis.ah.nl) (mail@194.109.102.29) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 7 Sep 1999 14:45:09 -0000 Received: from paul by janux.wau.mis.ah.nl with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11OMUW-0006ao-00; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:45:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:45:00 +0200 From: Paul Slootman To: Kai Duebbert Cc: 44402@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#44402: WISH: better documentation of chargeint feature Message-ID: <19990907164500.A25080@janux> References: <99090520573801.02801@kad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i In-Reply-To: <99090520573801.02801@kad> from "Kai Duebbert" on 1999/09/05 20:31 +0200 Sender: Paul Slootman On Sun 05 Sep 1999, Kai Duebbert wrote: > > Just spend the last four hours finding out, why the chargehup/chargeint > feature of isdnlog didn't work. The documentation is not very good. The No, it's not... The isdnlog people are more concerned for many features for documenting them all :-( It is worse with the new version that they are working on currently. It's been more or less unusable for months now, and they are still adding new things to it before making sure that everything works properly (and is documented!) before continuing... > information is hidden in the manpage of callerid.conf and it's not mentioned in > the manpage for isdnlog, where it should be as well. The problem is that > isdnlog needs an INTERFACE entry in callerid.conf for the corresponding number > or it doesn't calculate nor set the new chargeint number. > > Please add the following (simple) information to the following files and it > will make it obvious how to use it (actually isdnlog should bring up an Thanks for your suggestions, I'll add stuff to the next version of isdnutils. > errormessage, if chargeint is configured but it can't find an INTERFACE entry > for the number, but that's a problem for the developers and I might send them > this email too): They'll probably say that it is not relevant anymore because the new version is different anyway :-( > I love Suse now...;-) ). It is a really cool feature especially if you have to > pay for your local calls like in Germany. I have to pay also, but I pay 0,10 for an initial connect, then immediately a fixed rate of X per second (so it ALWAYS costs money for every second you are connected, no fixed rate for every X seconds). E.g. 0 seconds connected costs 0,10, 1 seconds connected costs 0,1007, 2 seconds costs 0,1014, etc. So the chargehup system is of no use in the Netherlands :-( (which is partly why I've never really looked at how it works in detail). Paul Slootman -- home: paul@wurtel.demon.nl | work: paul@murphy.nl | debian: paul@debian.org http://www.wurtel.demon.nl | Murphy Software, Enschede, the Netherlands   Severity set to `wishlist'. Request was from Paul Slootman <paul@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org.   Received: (at control) by bugs.debian.org; 11 Jun 2001 12:04:18 +0000 From paul@wurtel.net Mon Jun 11 07:04:17 2001 Return-path: Received: from co63281-a.almel1.ov.nl.home.com (gw.wurtel.net) [::ffff:213.51.148.164] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 159QQb-0004E9-00; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:04:17 -0500 Received: from wurtel.local ([192.168.1.1] helo=wurtel.net) by gw.wurtel.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 159QQa-0005fP-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:04:16 +0200 Received: from paul by wurtel.net with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 159QQZ-0001OJ-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:04:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:04:15 +0200 From: Paul Slootman To: control@bugs.debian.org Subject: wishlist Message-ID: <20010611140415.E5296@wurtel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: Paul Slootman Delivered-To: control@bugs.debian.org severity 44402 wishlist thanks