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Bug#5696; Package dpkg-dev.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgIan Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk>  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Acknowledgement sent to marekm@i17linuxb.ists.pwr.wroc.pl (Marek Michalkiewicz):
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk>.   marekm@i17linuxb.ists.pwr.wroc.pl (Marek Michalkiewicz)  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 28 Nov 1996 19:27:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 22649 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1996 19:26:41 -0000 Received: from i17linuxb.ists.pwr.wroc.pl (root@156.17.35.8) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 28 Nov 1996 19:26:40 -0000 Received: by i17linuxb.ists.pwr.wroc.pl id m0vTBre-0007rWC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3); Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:11:14 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: marekm@i17linuxb.ists.pwr.wroc.pl (Marek Michalkiewicz) Subject: Policy, compress, and X... To: submit@bugs.debian.org Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:11:13 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1693 Package: dpkg-dev Version: 1.4.0.3 The policy manual says: packages where "the program cannot be compiled using only packages in the main Debian distribution" may only be placed in contrib. But, as it is now, X requires compress to build, and it is not in the main distribution due to US patent problems. Now, I don't think X should be placed in contrib just to meet policy requirements, especially since (again, according to the policy manual) any packages depending on X should then be in contrib as well... We have several options (besides moving X to contrib): - relax the policy a little - patch X to allow use of gzipped fonts (using zlib) - move the distribution to a country where LZW is not patented I guess the first option is easiest to implement right now, to make sure that the Debian 1.2 release doesn't contradict its own policy requirements. Hence, I'm reporting this as a bug in the dpkg-dev package which includes the policy manual. Changing the policy shouldn't break too many packages :-). Patching X to use zlib might be a good option if we didn't have the code freeze. How big is the necessary patch? It would be good, not just due to US patents - gzip has usually better compression and it would be nice to save some disk space. Moving the distribution would solve a few other problems as well (such as the ITAR munitions export restrictions), but is probably not something that can be done very quickly. Also, the policy manual doesn't say: the patent/copyright laws of which country should be used to decide if a package is freely distributable? (I'm assuming it's the country where ftp.debian.org is located - is this right? It does matter...) Marek   Bug reassigned from package `dpkg-dev' to `debian-policy'. Request was from Christian Schwarz <schwarz@monet.m.isar.de> to control@bugs.debian.org.   Christian Schwarz <schwarz@monet.m.isar.de>  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Christian Schwarz <schwarz@debian.org>:
Bug#5696; Package debian-policy.   debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgChristian Schwarz <schwarz@debian.org>  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Acknowledgement sent to Christian Schwarz <schwarz@monet.m.isar.de>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Christian Schwarz <schwarz@debian.org>.   Christian Schwarz <schwarz@monet.m.isar.de>  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Received: (at 5696) by bugs.debian.org; 1 Jun 1997 21:08:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 9372 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1997 21:08:13 -0000 Received: from nymphe.m.isar.de (root@193.141.69.3) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1997 21:08:13 -0000 Received: (from Umonet@localhost) by nymphe.m.isar.de (8.6.13/ny-1.1) with UUCP id XAA18954 for 5696@bugs.debian.org; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:08:10 +0200 Received: from klee.painters.net (schwarz@klee [10.1.1.8]) by monet.painters.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04150 for <5696@bugs.debian.org>; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:07:13 +0200 Received: from localhost (schwarz@localhost) by klee.painters.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA14114 for <5696@bugs.debian.org>; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:07:12 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: klee.painters.net: schwarz owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:07:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Schwarz X-Sender: schwarz@klee To: 5696@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Policy, compress, and X... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just talked to Mark Eichin about this problem and he told me that XFree3.3 doesn't have this "bug". (XFree3.3 will not require packages outside the main distribution for building.) Since I consider the requirement that packages in the main distribution don't require other packages for building very reasonable and I don't want to change this. Thus, I'd say we reassign this bug to the X packages (just as a remainder) and allow this exception to the Policy until XFree 3.3 is available. Any objections? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know schwarz@monet.m.isar.de, schwarz@schwarz-online.com, Debian GNU/Linux? schwarz@debian.org, schwarz@mathematik.tu-muenchen.de Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA http://www.debian.org http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/   Information forwarded to Christian Schwarz <schwarz@debian.org>:
Bug#5696; Package debian-policy.   Christian Schwarz <schwarz@debian.org>  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Acknowledgement sent to rjs@lloke.dna.fi (Riku Saikkonen):
Extra info received and forwarded to maintainer. Copy sent to Christian Schwarz <schwarz@debian.org>.   rjs@lloke.dna.fi (Riku Saikkonen)  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Received: (at 5696-maintonly) by bugs.debian.org; 13 Jul 1997 13:19:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 12255 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1997 13:19:35 -0000 Received: from isil.lloke.dna.fi (rjs@194.100.32.225) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 13 Jul 1997 13:19:29 -0000 Received: (from rjs@localhost) by isil.lloke.dna.fi (8.7.6/8.7.3) id QAA10680; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:19:00 +0300 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:19:00 +0300 Message-Id: <199707131319.QAA10680@isil.lloke.dna.fi> From: rjs@lloke.dna.fi (Riku Saikkonen) To: 5696-maintonly@bugs.debian.org Subject: An old bug fixed Now we have XFree86 3.3 in stable, with gzipped fonts, so I think this bug can be closed. If you agree, please close it... -- -=- Rjs -=- rjs@spider.compart.fi, rjs@lloke.dna.fi   Reply sent to Christian Schwarz <schwarz@monet.m.isar.de>:
You have taken responsibility.   Christian Schwarz <schwarz@monet.m.isar.de>  Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup.   Done: Christian Schwarz <schwarz@monet.m.isar.de>; Maintainer for debian-policy is Christian Schwarz <schwarz@debian.org>.

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According to info from Mark Eichin, XFree 3.3 does not have this bug. So I
close this bug report now.


Thanks,

Chris

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