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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgIan Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

Subject: Bug#8294: dpkg: Packages with epochs make old Debian installations not upgradable
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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.2.11elf

After updating the available database dpkg always fails with the following message:

# dpkg -s dpkg
dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22301 package
'sharutils':
 empty value for version

sharutils is a package using epochs for the version number.

I tried to:

1. Install a new dpkg using dpkg -> same error message

2. Got dpkg-nondebbin from experimental and unpacked it in the /root
directory. Then tried to execute /root/usr/bin/dpkg. Result:

# /root/usr/bin/dpkg -s dpkg
./dpkg: can't resolve symbol 'sysinfo'

How will a debian 1.1 system be upgradable to the next release?



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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.2.11elf

After updating the available database dpkg always fails with the following message:

# dpkg -s dpkg
dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22301 package
'sharutils':
 empty value for version

sharutils is a package using epochs for the version number.

I tried to:

1. Install a new dpkg using dpkg -> same error message

2. Got dpkg-nondebbin from experimental and unpacked it in the /root
directory. Then tried to execute /root/usr/bin/dpkg. Result:

# /root/usr/bin/dpkg -s dpkg
./dpkg: can't resolve symbol 'sysinfo'

How will a debian 1.1 system be upgradable to the next release?



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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgIan Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

Subject: Bug#8294: dpkg: Packages with epochs make old Debian installations not upgradable
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> After updating the available database dpkg always fails with the following message:
> 
> # dpkg -s dpkg
> dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22301 package
> 'sharutils':
>  empty value for version
> 
> sharutils is a package using epochs for the version number.
> 
> I tried to:
> 
> 1. Install a new dpkg using dpkg -> same error message
> 
> 2. Got dpkg-nondebbin from experimental and unpacked it in the /root
> directory. Then tried to execute /root/usr/bin/dpkg. Result:
> 
> # /root/usr/bin/dpkg -s dpkg
> ./dpkg: can't resolve symbol 'sysinfo'
> 
> How will a debian 1.1 system be upgradable to the next release?

dpkg --clear-avail
dpkg -I dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb



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> After updating the available database dpkg always fails with the following message:
> 
> # dpkg -s dpkg
> dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22301 package
> 'sharutils':
>  empty value for version
> 
> sharutils is a package using epochs for the version number.
> 
> I tried to:
> 
> 1. Install a new dpkg using dpkg -> same error message
> 
> 2. Got dpkg-nondebbin from experimental and unpacked it in the /root
> directory. Then tried to execute /root/usr/bin/dpkg. Result:
> 
> # /root/usr/bin/dpkg -s dpkg
> ./dpkg: can't resolve symbol 'sysinfo'
> 
> How will a debian 1.1 system be upgradable to the next release?

dpkg --clear-avail
dpkg -I dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb



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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgIan Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

Subject: Bug#8294: dpkg: Packages with epochs make old Debian installations not upgradable
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On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

> > After updating the available database dpkg always fails with the following message:
> > 
> > # dpkg -s dpkg
> > dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22301 package
> > 'sharutils':
> >  empty value for version
> > 
> > sharutils is a package using epochs for the version number.
> > 
> > I tried to:
> > 
> > 1. Install a new dpkg using dpkg -> same error message
> > 
> > 2. Got dpkg-nondebbin from experimental and unpacked it in the /root
> > directory. Then tried to execute /root/usr/bin/dpkg. Result:
> > 
> > # /root/usr/bin/dpkg -s dpkg
> > ./dpkg: can't resolve symbol 'sysinfo'
> > 
> > How will a debian 1.1 system be upgradable to the next release?
> 
> dpkg --clear-avail
> dpkg -I dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb

Wouldn't it be better to change the few packages that use epochs so that
the old version of dpkg can handle it? IMHO most users would prefer it if
dpkg won't upgrade a single package (because its version number is
conseridered less than the installed one) instead of having to go through
this pain. (It's not much pain unless you know how to do it :-)

I used sgrep to get a list of packages using epochs:

Package: aout-svgalib
Package: svgalib1-bin
Package: svgalib1
Package: tf
Package: svgalib1-dev
Package: mailx
Package: bison
Package: zlib1
Package: sharutils
Package: zlib1-dev

(Perhaps someone could verify that I didn't miss a package.)


Thanks,

Chris

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-t

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On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

> > After updating the available database dpkg always fails with the following message:
> > 
> > # dpkg -s dpkg
> > dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22301 package
> > 'sharutils':
> >  empty value for version
> > 
> > sharutils is a package using epochs for the version number.
> > 
> > I tried to:
> > 
> > 1. Install a new dpkg using dpkg -> same error message
> > 
> > 2. Got dpkg-nondebbin from experimental and unpacked it in the /root
> > directory. Then tried to execute /root/usr/bin/dpkg. Result:
> > 
> > # /root/usr/bin/dpkg -s dpkg
> > ./dpkg: can't resolve symbol 'sysinfo'
> > 
> > How will a debian 1.1 system be upgradable to the next release?
> 
> dpkg --clear-avail
> dpkg -I dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb

Wouldn't it be better to change the few packages that use epochs so that
the old version of dpkg can handle it? IMHO most users would prefer it if
dpkg won't upgrade a single package (because its version number is
conseridered less than the installed one) instead of having to go through
this pain. (It's not much pain unless you know how to do it :-)

I used sgrep to get a list of packages using epochs:

Package: aout-svgalib
Package: svgalib1-bin
Package: svgalib1
Package: tf
Package: svgalib1-dev
Package: mailx
Package: bison
Package: zlib1
Package: sharutils
Package: zlib1-dev

(Perhaps someone could verify that I didn't miss a package.)


Thanks,

Chris

--                  Christian Schwarz
                   schwarz@monet.m.isar.de, schwarz@schwarz-online.com
                  schwarz@debian.org, schwarz@mathematik.tu-muenchen.de
                       
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debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgIan Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

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On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
> Wouldn't it be better to change the few packages that use epochs so that
> the old version of dpkg can handle it? IMHO most users would prefer it if
> dpkg won't upgrade a single package (because its version number is
> conseridered less than the installed one) instead of having to go through
> this pain. (It's not much pain unless you know how to do it :-)

Versions of dpkg >= 1.4.0.7 should support epochs correctly.  The epoch
was created to allow packages with wierd numbering sequences to work
correctly, if you change packages, newer versions of dpkg won't recognise
that the newer (non-epoch) package is actually newer.





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On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
> Wouldn't it be better to change the few packages that use epochs so that
> the old version of dpkg can handle it? IMHO most users would prefer it if
> dpkg won't upgrade a single package (because its version number is
> conseridered less than the installed one) instead of having to go through
> this pain. (It's not much pain unless you know how to do it :-)

Versions of dpkg >= 1.4.0.7 should support epochs correctly.  The epoch
was created to allow packages with wierd numbering sequences to work
correctly, if you change packages, newer versions of dpkg won't recognise
that the newer (non-epoch) package is actually newer.





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From: Cyrille Chepelov <chepelov@calixo.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:06:00 +0200
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tag 8294 moreinfo
thanks

Is this bug still of any relevance ? 
Is the workaround described there stored anywhere else for reference ? We have many more 
packages with epochs nowadays...

Will close in 2 weeks unless a problem arises.

	-- Cyrille




<strong>Message sent on</strong> to <code>Christoph Lameter &lt;clameter@waterf.org&gt;</code>:<br>
Bug#8294.


Christoph Lameter <clameter@waterf.org>

Subject: Bug#8294: is this still of any relevance ?
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tag 8294 moreinfo
thanks

Is this bug still of any relevance ? 
Is the workaround described there stored anywhere else for reference ? We have many more 
packages with epochs nowadays...

Will close in 2 weeks unless a problem arises.

	-- Cyrille




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tag 8294 moreinfo
thanks

Is this bug still of any relevance ? 
Is the workaround described there stored anywhere else for reference ? We have many more 
packages with epochs nowadays...

Will close in 2 weeks unless a problem arises.

	-- Cyrille




<strong>Reply sent</strong> to <code>Christoph Lameter &lt;christoph@lameter.com&gt;</code>:<br>
You have taken responsibility.


-t

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Subject: Bug#8294: marked as done (dpkg: Packages with epochs make old Debian installations not upgradable)
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Subject: dpkg: Packages with epochs make old Debian installations not upgradable
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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@waterf.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:47:17 -0800

Package: dpkg
Version: 1.2.11elf

After updating the available database dpkg always fails with the following message:

# dpkg -s dpkg
dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22301 package
'sharutils':
 empty value for version

sharutils is a package using epochs for the version number.

I tried to:

1. Install a new dpkg using dpkg -> same error message

2. Got dpkg-nondebbin from experimental and unpacked it in the /root
directory. Then tried to execute /root/usr/bin/dpkg. Result:

# /root/usr/bin/dpkg -s dpkg
./dpkg: can't resolve symbol 'sysinfo'

How will a debian 1.1 system be upgradable to the next release?
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It's irrelevant like my old email address. I filed the bug in 1997!

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Josip Rodin wrote:

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> tag 8294 moreinfo
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>
> Is this bug still of any relevance ?
> Is the workaround described there stored anywhere else for reference ? We have many more
> packages with epochs nowadays...
>
> Will close in 2 weeks unless a problem arises.
>
> 	-- Cyrille
>
>
>
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<strong>Notification sent</strong> to <code>Christoph Lameter &lt;clameter@waterf.org&gt;</code>:<br>
Bug acknowledged by developer.


-t

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This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
#8294: dpkg: Packages with epochs make old Debian installations not upgradable,
which was filed against the dpkg package.

It has been closed by one of the developers, namely
Christoph Lameter <christoph@lameter.com>.

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It's irrelevant like my old email address. I filed the bug in 1997!

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Josip Rodin wrote:

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> tag 8294 moreinfo
> thanks
>
> Is this bug still of any relevance ?
> Is the workaround described there stored anywhere else for reference ? We have many more
> packages with epochs nowadays...
>
> Will close in 2 weeks unless a problem arises.
>
> 	-- Cyrille
>
>
>
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It's irrelevant like my old email address. I filed the bug in 1997!

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>
> tag 8294 moreinfo
> thanks
>
> Is this bug still of any relevance ?
> Is the workaround described there stored anywhere else for reference ? We have many more
> packages with epochs nowadays...
>
> Will close in 2 weeks unless a problem arises.
>
> 	-- Cyrille
>
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> --
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>