<strong>Report forwarded</strong> to <code>debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, servo@southeast.net (Daniel J. Stringfield)</code>:<br>
<code>Bug#7887</code>; Package <code>pine</code>.


debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgservo@southeast.net (Daniel J. Stringfield)

Subject: Bug#7887: Pine forces part<2-> in a MIME message to be BASE64 encoded
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Pine seems to think it is in a PC world where there is a main message
and anything other than that is an attached file - probably a specially
encoded file.

In the Unix world though, we deal a lot more with text files.  MIME was
specifically designed so that if you have a multi-part message that
consists of multiple text messages it will still be readable.  The folks
that wrote the MIME standard understood that not everyone does
everything in their mail-reader, that slinging MIME tools around can get
cumbersome, and not everyone even has a MIME reader.

So, Pine shouldn't encode part2+ in a multipart message if it's readable
text.

Darren
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<strong>Acknowledgement sent</strong> to <code>&quot;Darren/Torin/Who Ever...&quot; &lt;torin@daft.com&gt;</code>:<br>
New bug report received and forwarded.  Copy sent to <code>servo@southeast.net (Daniel J. Stringfield)</code>.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: "Darren/Torin/Who Ever..." <torin@daft.com>
Subject: Bug#7887: Acknowledgement (was: Pine forces part<2-> in a MIME message to be BASE64 encoded)
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Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian Linux.
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Pine seems to think it is in a PC world where there is a main message
and anything other than that is an attached file - probably a specially
encoded file.

In the Unix world though, we deal a lot more with text files.  MIME was
specifically designed so that if you have a multi-part message that
consists of multiple text messages it will still be readable.  The folks
that wrote the MIME standard understood that not everyone does
everything in their mail-reader, that slinging MIME tools around can get
cumbersome, and not everyone even has a MIME reader.

So, Pine shouldn't encode part2+ in a multipart message if it's readable
text.

Darren
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<strong>Merged 3253 7887.</strong>
Request was from <code>Ian Jackson &lt;ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk&gt;</code>
to <code>control@bugs.debian.org</code>. 


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merge 7887 3253



<strong>Reply sent</strong> to <code>Santiago Vila Doncel &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;</code>:<br>
You have taken responsibility.


-t

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Pine seems to think it is in a PC world where there is a main message
and anything other than that is an attached file - probably a specially
encoded file.

In the Unix world though, we deal a lot more with text files.  MIME was
specifically designed so that if you have a multi-part message that
consists of multiple text messages it will still be readable.  The folks
that wrote the MIME standard understood that not everyone does
everything in their mail-reader, that slinging MIME tools around can get
cumbersome, and not everyone even has a MIME reader.

So, Pine shouldn't encode part2+ in a multipart message if it's readable
text.

Darren
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<strong>Notification sent</strong> to <code>&quot;Darren/Torin/Who Ever...&quot; &lt;torin@daft.com&gt;</code>:<br>
Bug acknowledged by developer.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: "Darren/Torin/Who Ever..." <torin@daft.com>
Subject: Bug#7887 acknowledged by developer (was: Pine forces part<2-> in a MIME message to be BASE64 encoded)
Message-ID: <handler.7887.D3253.86829802026400.notifdone@bugs.debian.org>
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From: Santiago Vila Doncel <sanvila@unex.es>
To: 3253-done@bugs.debian.org, 7887-done@bugs.debian.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Unfortunately, pine developers have said "no" again.

They argue that:   (abridged)

  We believe that the highest priority for any attachment is that a MIME
  tool can recover _exactly_ what was attached.  We found that it was
  not possible to have any reasonable assurance of getting a text
  attachment through intact without BASE64 encoding.  Therefore, we
  consider BASE64 encoding a feature, not a bug, and do not plan to
  change Pine in this regard.

  Pine already provides a way to send text files where the sender doesn't
  care if the text is slightly corrupted: it is to *include* the file via
  Control-R, rather than to attach the file.  Note also that we are half
  way through 1997; MIME is what, five years old now?  There are freeware MIME
  tools available for virtually every platform...

  So adding a feature might solve a short-term problem, but it would
  create a long-term problem for help-desks all over the world.



Therefore, since there is very little chance that they change this
behaviour, I'm closing this bug.

However I'll do two things:

* I will *document* this in the next Debian pine release.

* Of course, if anybody submit a patch which adds an option to be able to
use either base64 or quoted-printable in a MIME text attachement, I would
be very glad to apply it in the next Debian pine release.

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From: Santiago Vila Doncel <sanvila@unex.es>
To: 3253-done@bugs.debian.org, 7887-done@bugs.debian.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Unfortunately, pine developers have said "no" again.

They argue that:   (abridged)

  We believe that the highest priority for any attachment is that a MIME
  tool can recover _exactly_ what was attached.  We found that it was
  not possible to have any reasonable assurance of getting a text
  attachment through intact without BASE64 encoding.  Therefore, we
  consider BASE64 encoding a feature, not a bug, and do not plan to
  change Pine in this regard.

  Pine already provides a way to send text files where the sender doesn't
  care if the text is slightly corrupted: it is to *include* the file via
  Control-R, rather than to attach the file.  Note also that we are half
  way through 1997; MIME is what, five years old now?  There are freeware MIME
  tools available for virtually every platform...

  So adding a feature might solve a short-term problem, but it would
  create a long-term problem for help-desks all over the world.



Therefore, since there is very little chance that they change this
behaviour, I'm closing this bug.

However I'll do two things:

* I will *document* this in the next Debian pine release.

* Of course, if anybody submit a patch which adds an option to be able to
use either base64 or quoted-printable in a MIME text attachement, I would
be very glad to apply it in the next Debian pine release.

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 19:53:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Santiago Vila Doncel <sanvila@unex.es>
To: 3253-done@bugs.debian.org, 7887-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Closing bugs #3253 and #7887
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Unfortunately, pine developers have said "no" again.

They argue that:   (abridged)

  We believe that the highest priority for any attachment is that a MIME
  tool can recover _exactly_ what was attached.  We found that it was
  not possible to have any reasonable assurance of getting a text
  attachment through intact without BASE64 encoding.  Therefore, we
  consider BASE64 encoding a feature, not a bug, and do not plan to
  change Pine in this regard.

  Pine already provides a way to send text files where the sender doesn't
  care if the text is slightly corrupted: it is to *include* the file via
  Control-R, rather than to attach the file.  Note also that we are half
  way through 1997; MIME is what, five years old now?  There are freeware MIME
  tools available for virtually every platform...

  So adding a feature might solve a short-term problem, but it would
  create a long-term problem for help-desks all over the world.



Therefore, since there is very little chance that they change this
behaviour, I'm closing this bug.

However I'll do two things:

* I will *document* this in the next Debian pine release.

* Of course, if anybody submit a patch which adds an option to be able to
use either base64 or quoted-printable in a MIME text attachement, I would
be very glad to apply it in the next Debian pine release.

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<strong>Bug reopened, originator set to Ian Jackson &lt;ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk&gt;.</strong>
Request was from <code>Ian Jackson &lt;ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk&gt;</code>
to <code>control@bugs.debian.org</code>. 


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reopen 3253



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You have taken responsibility.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Ian Jackson)
To: <sanvila@unex.es>
Cc: Santiago Vila <sanvila@ctv.es>
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Pine seems to think it is in a PC world where there is a main message
and anything other than that is an attached file - probably a specially
encoded file.

In the Unix world though, we deal a lot more with text files.  MIME was
specifically designed so that if you have a multi-part message that
consists of multiple text messages it will still be readable.  The folks
that wrote the MIME standard understood that not everyone does
everything in their mail-reader, that slinging MIME tools around can get
cumbersome, and not everyone even has a MIME reader.

So, Pine shouldn't encode part2+ in a multipart message if it's readable
text.

Darren
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<strong>Notification sent</strong> to <code>Ian Jackson &lt;ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk&gt;</code>:<br>
Bug acknowledged by developer.


-t

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To: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Subject: Bug#7887 acknowledged by developer (was: Pine forces part<2-> in a MIME message to be BASE64 encoded)
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<strong>Bug reopened, originator set to Ian Jackson &lt;ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk&gt;.</strong>
Request was from <code>Ian Jackson &lt;ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk&gt;</code>
to <code>control@bugs.debian.org</code>. 


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Subject: Pine encoding bug

reopen 3253



<strong>Reply sent</strong> to <code>Santiago Vila Doncel &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;</code>:<br>
You have taken responsibility.


-t

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Pine seems to think it is in a PC world where there is a main message
and anything other than that is an attached file - probably a specially
encoded file.

In the Unix world though, we deal a lot more with text files.  MIME was
specifically designed so that if you have a multi-part message that
consists of multiple text messages it will still be readable.  The folks
that wrote the MIME standard understood that not everyone does
everything in their mail-reader, that slinging MIME tools around can get
cumbersome, and not everyone even has a MIME reader.

So, Pine shouldn't encode part2+ in a multipart message if it's readable
text.

Darren
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Bug acknowledged by developer.


-t

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The file BUGS.Debian should be enough.

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<strong>Bug reopened, originator set to Santiago Vila Doncel &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;.</strong>
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reopen 3253
stop




<strong>Severity set to `wishlist'.</strong>
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severity 3253 wishlist




<strong>Changed bug title.</strong>
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retitle 6287 gettext has no manpages
retitle 3253 pine base64-encodes MIME text attachments
retitle 7887 pine base64-encodes MIME text attachments
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<strong>Noted your statement that bug has been forwarded to Pine Developers &lt;pine@cac.washington.edu&gt;.</strong>
Request was from <code>Santiago Vila &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;</code>
to <code>control@bugs.debian.org</code>. 


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forwarded 3253 Pine Developers <pine@cac.washington.edu>
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<strong>Disconnected #3253 from all other report(s).</strong>
Request was from <code>Santiago Vila &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;</code>
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<strong>Bug closed, ack sent to submitter - they'd better know why !</strong>
Request was from <code>Santiago Vila &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;</code>
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<strong>Bug reopened, originator set to Darren Stalder &lt;torin@daft.com&gt;.</strong>
Request was from <code>Santiago Vila &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;</code>
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<strong>Reply sent</strong> to <code>Santiago Vila &lt;sanvila@unex.es&gt;</code>:<br>
You have taken responsibility.


-t

From: owner@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System)
To: Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es>
Cc: Santiago Vila <sanvila@ctv.es>
Bcc: debian-bugs-closed@lists.debian.org
Subject: Bug#7887: marked as done (pine base64-encodes MIME text attachments)
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X-Debian-PR-Message: closed 7887

Your message dated Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:39:45 +0100 (CET)
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and subject line pine base64-encodes MIME text attachments
has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

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Package: pine
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Pine seems to think it is in a PC world where there is a main message
and anything other than that is an attached file - probably a specially
encoded file.

In the Unix world though, we deal a lot more with text files.  MIME was
specifically designed so that if you have a multi-part message that
consists of multiple text messages it will still be readable.  The folks
that wrote the MIME standard understood that not everyone does
everything in their mail-reader, that slinging MIME tools around can get
cumbersome, and not everyone even has a MIME reader.

So, Pine shouldn't encode part2+ in a multipart message if it's readable
text.

Darren
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From: Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es>
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Hi.

Several years ago there was a discussion about this bug and I decided
to keep it open, but I have changed my mind since then.

At the time of writing this (year 2000), everybody should have MIME tools
so I've decided to consider this wishlist bug as "non-worthy" and close it.

Thanks.

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<strong>Notification sent</strong> to <code>Darren Stalder &lt;torin@daft.com&gt;</code>:<br>
Bug acknowledged by developer.


-t

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This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report.

It has been closed by one of the developers, namely
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Hi.

Several years ago there was a discussion about this bug and I decided
to keep it open, but I have changed my mind since then.

At the time of writing this (year 2000), everybody should have MIME tools
so I've decided to consider this wishlist bug as "non-worthy" and close it.

Thanks.

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Hi.

Several years ago there was a discussion about this bug and I decided
to keep it open, but I have changed my mind since then.

At the time of writing this (year 2000), everybody should have MIME tools
so I've decided to consider this wishlist bug as "non-worthy" and close it.

Thanks.

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