Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.org>:
Bug#6472; Package xbase. debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgStephen Early <sde1000@debian.org> Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup. Acknowledgement sent to quinlan@pathname.com:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.org>. quinlan@pathname.com Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup. Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 8 Jan 1997 09:53:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 4045 invoked from network); 8 Jan 1997 09:53:30 -0000 Received: from proton.pathname.com (root@204.145.147.37) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 8 Jan 1997 09:53:30 -0000 Received: by proton.pathname.com id m0vhufV-000inrC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:51:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Quinlan To: submit@bugs.debian.org Subject: backspace key doesn't work right in Emacs Reply-To: quinlan@pathname.com X-Mailer: Emacs 19.34 Package: xbase Version: 3.2-1.1 When running Emacs in an xterm, the backspace key sends the Ctrl-h keycode. This runs "help" in Emacs, which is not acceptable behavior. Since the change that produced this problem did not originate in the Emacs package, I don't believe this is an Emacs bug. Please find a reasonable solution to the delete vs. backspace problem. I suggest working something out with the Debian Emacs maintainer. Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us>:
Bug#6472; Package xbase. debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.orgMark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us> Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup. Acknowledgement sent to "Mark W. Eichin" <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us>. "Mark W. Eichin" <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us> Sorry, this message was lost when this bug report was restored from a backup. Received: (at 6472) by bugs.debian.org; 27 Apr 1997 07:53:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 706 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1997 07:53:21 -0000 Received: from depreciation.kitten.gen.ma.us (192.80.44.133) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1997 07:53:20 -0000 Received: (from eichin@localhost) by depreciation.kitten.gen.ma.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA08921; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:53:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:53:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199704270753.DAA08921@depreciation.kitten.gen.ma.us> From: "Mark W. Eichin" To: 6472@bugs.debian.org Subject: backspace key doesn't work right in Emacs > Emacs package, I don't believe this is an Emacs bug. Please find a > reasonable solution to the delete vs. backspace problem. I suggest > working something out with the Debian Emacs maintainer. And now everything comes full circle, as I'm both the emacs maintainer *and* the xfree86 maintainer :-) Unfortunately, that just means I see the arguments from multiple views; I've yet to see a good way to handle this within emacs or X. There's a bunch of confusion as to what level "backspace" means anything... Since a better thing happens (namely, the "<--" key causes a character to be deleted to the left, instead of invoking help) when emacs is talking directly to X, I'd recommend solving this by only using emacs directly with X, and not with an xterm. If you must use emacs inside an xterm, consider binding "<--" to generate delete instead. I'll leave the report open for now, though... the closest thing to a solution I've seen suggested is for emacs to notice that you've done an "stty erase ^h" (you have done that, right, if you expect backspace to *mean* anything) and disable the c-h for help binding, under the assumption that you can try f1 or figure things out some other way. Unfortunately, this is a fairly drastic difference, and I'd rather see it show up (perhaps in 19.35) upstream first before diverging that much...